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To: mountainlion
mountainlion: "I am not anti science just against sloppy science or false representations."

You yourself posted the link which shows that the rate of scientific misrepresentations is circa one in 10,000 published papers, out of millions every year.
And from this you deduce that all of science is "sloppy" or "false"?
I'd call that a stretch.

mountainlion: "Global warming is an example of science abused."

Abused by leftist politics and politicians offering "free" grant money for politically correct research.
By contrast, Evolution Theory was first formed long before anyone even dreamed to applying for government grants.
Yes, in the past 150 years, Evolution was abused by groups such as National Socialists, but is not today the source of some United Nations global power-grab.

mountainlion: "There is much fraud in evolution so I do not take the first presentation as fact.
Nebraska man is a good example.
Some say that any two legged primate is “human” I feel that is a misrepresentation. "

I suspect you are confusing real science with every huckster who comes along.
In the case of "Nebraska man", the error appears to have been honestly made in 1922, the error discovered in 1925 and officially corrected in 1927.
So what is the big deal?
That's precisely how science is supposed to work -- self correcting.

As for some other primates being "human" -- that is simply not so.
Yes, there is a debate over Neanderthals -- were they actually human or pre-human?
Arguments can be made either way, along with those for Denisovans and Flores "hobbit" men.

But there has never been a scientific suggestion that other pre-human or primate species are somehow "human".

mountainlion: "The meaning of words change in diverse groups and time as you dislike of my use of proved."

Science is nothing if it's not precise in its definitions and use of scientific terms.
People like yourself, who hate real science, are forever claiming that "xyz hasn't been proved", just as if that word "proved" meant something.
It doesn't, because nothing outside mathematics can be "proved".
But every theory, in order to become a theory, has to be confirmed.
Of course, any confirmed theory might yet, someday, be falsified and thus disproved.
That's why a theory is always called confirmed and never finally proved.

136 posted on 10/11/2012 10:55:16 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

I think we can agree that we disagree. You read too much into my comments.


137 posted on 10/11/2012 1:14:57 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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