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Ridicule Can be Countered. How to Disrupt the "Delphi Technique" (Alinsky Method)
http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/acf002.htm ^ | March 1996 | Sandy Vanderberg, Peg Luksik

Posted on 10/12/2012 12:46:28 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark

Biden's caustic and offensive stratgegy of ridiculing Ryan is from Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals". The following links will explain a version of RforR called, "The Delphi Technique". It is used effectively to manipulate concensus. Read, learn and practice.

The Delphi Technique - What is it? ... http://www.learnusa.com/transformation_process/acf001.htm

The Delphi Technique - How to Disrupt It ... http://www.learnusa.com/transformation_process/acf002.htm


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To: Jo Nuvark; Larry Lucido; longtermmemmory
This link worked for me. http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/acf001.htm

I saw it at work very clearly once; one tactic was to quickly pie-slice (gerrymander) the large group into "small groups" in such a way that critics were isolated from each other; get each small group to write up its policy recommendations and have a facilitator summarize them (the summary left out most critical elements); then in the grand wrap-up, all the small-groups' "recommendations" (which turned out to be all the same) were gathered and "summarized" by facilitators again, the summary being a second filter which left not the smallest trace of any dissent.

It gave the appearance of "democratic process" when in fact all the results were pre-determined.

21 posted on 10/12/2012 1:20:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Jo Nuvark

This just in: “Al Gore threatens to release his chakra upon the world unless one of the candidates discusses Dingell-Norwood!”

It make no senses, but I did not understand this thread and have been peeling wallpaper and inhaling solvent fumes. Anyway, it seems suited for Halloween.


22 posted on 10/12/2012 1:22:38 PM PDT by Puddleglum (http://www.facebook.com/paulhawkinsauthoradventurerexplorer)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Okay, now I will read the article. I know how to disrupt it - call it for what is is in front of as many people as you can.


23 posted on 10/12/2012 1:25:04 PM PDT by Puddleglum (http://www.facebook.com/paulhawkinsauthoradventurerexplorer)
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To: Puddleglum

Ryan could’ve said, “Mr. Vice President, I’m noticing that you never look at me when you’re talking.. What are you afraid of?”.. LOL


24 posted on 10/12/2012 1:34:33 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

The key to winning a debate is, don’t concentrate TOO MUCH one what you’re going to say next! Stay in the NOW, listen to your opponent otherwise you’ll miss out on opportunities to counter punch!


25 posted on 10/12/2012 1:38:40 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“..the appearance of ‘democratic process’...”

Off topic slightly - this technique works when the people in the small groups are naive and do not suspect that they are being used. The Bishop in our diocese managed to have many parishes closed and/or combined using this method and the suckers thought they had decided it themselves. It was chilling how well it worked, in fact, and some of the most beautiful historic churches are closed now, while hideous suburban churches remained open. It was smoooth ...

Let’s all stay super vigilant so the dems don’t manipulate us in these ways. When people don’t realize they are being controlled, the method works.


26 posted on 10/12/2012 1:41:22 PM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: theDentist

This technique has been used frequently in the public schools when dealing with parents who are objecting to some radical policy. It is especially useful when there is a controversy. The officials give the appearance of “listening” to the outrage, but when everything is over, nothing changes.


27 posted on 10/12/2012 1:43:33 PM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: Larry Lucido

Non-unionized Delphi retirees rally over ‘theft of our pensions’ caused by auto bailout

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2928853/posts

this is the Rat’s delphi technique


28 posted on 10/12/2012 1:50:39 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Biden was playing to the theater of his mind. It is scary to imagine what he thinks of himself in there.

But yes, Ryan should have caught and held Biden’s eyes until Biden got the message, or as you say, challenged Slow Joe to make eye contact. Or he could have said, “When I think sentencing our children’s children children to penury is funny, I will let you know.” Just call sh!t for what it is as soon as possible.


29 posted on 10/12/2012 1:53:54 PM PDT by Puddleglum (http://www.facebook.com/paulhawkinsauthoradventurerexplorer)
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To: Larry Lucido; humblegunner; longtermmemmory; Bowtie52; Alex Murphy; theDentist; Alas Babylon!; ...

I appreciate all of your comments. I would respond
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30 posted on 10/12/2012 2:25:04 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Puddleglum
“When I think sentencing our children’s children children to penury is funny, I will let you know.”
I think that that is at the root of a lot the the problem. I’m retired and I collect Social Security - but I have never voted or indicated that I thought that Social Security was anything but a Ponzi scheme which is highly seductive but in fact is slanted towards leaving young people holding the bag.

The trouble with the Social Security system is that it doesn’t have an independent investment base. It is all “invested” in “safe” government bonds. Let’s face it, historically government bonds have been safe, and they always will be safe in dollar-denominated terms. But when government gets its credit rating downgraded by Moody’s, that is no joke. When the debt skyrockets, at some point people sober up and realize that there isn’t enough money in the world to pay the retire that debt - and then that “safety” becomes a bitter joke.

It’s a Ponzi scheme because the Government - acting as our "fiduciary" “invests” the money in its own debt. This results in a situation where a single entity - in this case the government - writes and IOU to itself and claims that it has economic value. It doesn’t - when it comes time to draw on the SSTF, the Social Security Administration will present a bond to the Treasury and the Treasury will have to print dollars to honor that bond. That is, it will have to borrow that money on the open market - and its credit rating will tank in the process.

And that is a sword of Damoclese hanging over the heads of our own children and grandchildren. On a personal level, the only way to ameliorate that situation is to pass as much of that Social Security money down to your children as you can. The government told us that the payroll tax wasn’t a tax but an investment. But it really was a tax, because that money is gone. We should accept that reality and, to the extent your circumstances permit, indemnify your children against it.


31 posted on 10/12/2012 4:13:11 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Here is Tea Party leader Heather Gass’ description on You Tube of the Delphi Technique:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1JhnFG82FQ&feature=related

It is how the Left rams their agenda down our throats. This is the Obama Regime, ramming their agenda down our throats and screw the American public. It is Joe Biden controlling the debate and ramming his lies down our throats.

The good thing is that America is now becoming aware of their “Delphi Technique.” In November, America will ram their crap down their throats, I predict.


32 posted on 10/12/2012 4:16:26 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: sanjuanbob

I am inclined to think that Biden has the questions in advance.


33 posted on 10/12/2012 4:17:51 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: humblegunner

34 posted on 10/12/2012 4:26:13 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Well said - thank you so much for expressing the peril of “funding by Ponzi” much better than I could have.


35 posted on 10/12/2012 4:42:35 PM PDT by Puddleglum (http://www.facebook.com/paulhawkinsauthoradventurerexplorer)
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To: jonrick46

Thank you for the youtube link.
I will it include it with my DT file.


36 posted on 10/12/2012 10:58:06 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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