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WHAT SHE’S REALLY UP TO: something you miss if you buy the stupid “falling on the sword"..
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Posted on 10/16/2012 1:17:59 PM PDT by Perdogg

Hillary Clinton is not a woman who falls on a sword for anyone...but she is someone who knows how to take center stage in the middle of a storm and loudly define herself as the only adult in the room...while all the men around her are emasculated and diminished by her presence. ]

I love words and consider them tiny magical spells if strung together properly into well-crafted sentences. I’m a wordsmith and am fascinated by turns of phrase, especially ones that other conservative writers choose to use that I think are inappropriate in certain situations. Today, Ben Shapiro over at Breitbart.com has an article up where he insists Hillary Clinton “fell on her sword” for Barack Obama; I’ve long thought Ben was the weakest writer they had over there and this cemented that in my mind because while “falling on a sword” is a phrase he’s probably been using since high school (which was not all that long ago for him) it doesn’t really apply to what’s happening regarding Hillary and the Benghazi situation in Libya. Things are far more interesting than that, and “falling on a sword” is not what Hillary did.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: hillarysfault; hillbuzz; pardon; soshillary

1 posted on 10/16/2012 1:18:04 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

I agree. She has effectively taken over leadership of the rat party. Whether that is good thing is hard to say.


2 posted on 10/16/2012 1:24:18 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Perdogg

Broken link....insecure much?


3 posted on 10/16/2012 1:27:48 PM PDT by databoss
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To: Perdogg

She got a promise of no Biden in 2016 and Obama supporting her no matter who else is in the race. Power play, pure and simple.


4 posted on 10/16/2012 1:28:15 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 ("You can either limit growth or limit government. We choose to limit government." Paul Ryan.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

PING!


5 posted on 10/16/2012 1:28:21 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: databoss

Link is fine. What are you talking about?


6 posted on 10/16/2012 1:29:36 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: Perdogg

He’s right about Ben Shapiro’s writing.


7 posted on 10/16/2012 1:31:56 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Perdogg

Read this from another source. VERY insightful article.


8 posted on 10/16/2012 1:32:03 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: Perdogg

A modern day Al Haig?


9 posted on 10/16/2012 1:32:17 PM PDT by McGruff (I love the smell of DESPERATION in the morning. Smells like victory!)
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To: Perdogg
Ah, Hillary.

Greater love hath no woman but that she lay down her "lies" for another.

Hillary just passed the buck and made it sound like she wasn't.

Kind of like when liberals apologize: "If anyone was offended...."

10 posted on 10/16/2012 1:32:55 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind; LS; Perdogg; napscoordinator; God luvs America; nutmeg; SoFloFreeper; Ravi; ...

pin


11 posted on 10/16/2012 1:35:03 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: Perdogg

Hillary is the one person most directly responsible for the death of the ambassador. No one needs for her to tell them that. She needs to resign or be fired. You do not let the incompetent employee set the terms of their punishment. Admitting incompetence is not enough. There must be a consequence for it.She needs to go.


12 posted on 10/16/2012 1:35:24 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: Perdogg

She fell on her sword right under the bus! A freak accident and a tragedy.


13 posted on 10/16/2012 1:35:26 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Perdogg

Doesn’t take me to an article just a site navy at hillbuzz


14 posted on 10/16/2012 1:36:43 PM PDT by databoss
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To: Perdogg

The page won’t open from either of your links.


15 posted on 10/16/2012 1:37:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Revolting cat!

from a poster:

“A few minutes ago I watched Megan Kelly on Fox interview a reporter who is working on a story about the Obama administration funneling weapons to “Syrian rebels”, right into the hands of Al Qaeda. No surprise, right? The thing is, that reporter works for The Washington Post.

Let me repeat that – The Washington Post. (Wish I could boldface that!)”

Read more http://hillbuzz.org/what-shes-really-up-to-something-you-miss-if-you-buy-the-stupid-falling-on-the-sword-meme-being-pushed-about-hillary-clinton-today-95552


16 posted on 10/16/2012 1:38:15 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Perdogg
Hilliary is the adult b!tch in the room.

Truth is, her serious political days are over January 20th at noon. And this time she won't be smuggling anything out of the Whitehouse.

17 posted on 10/16/2012 1:39:06 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Perdogg

About the author:

Kevin DuJan

Gay conservative political analyst, essayist, author and radio and TV commentator on politics, pop culture, LGBTQ issues, and current events. To email Kevin directly with a comment or complaint about this or any article, do so at: HillBuzzatgmail.com

Pure speculation. Just like every other blogger.


18 posted on 10/16/2012 1:44:31 PM PDT by McGruff (I love the smell of DESPERATION in the morning. Smells like victory!)
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To: All
I love words and consider them tiny magical spells if strung together properly into well-crafted sentences.

If the author really believes that she should try it in her own writing sometime. She takes forever to get to a point and it's all meaningless drivel along the way.

19 posted on 10/16/2012 1:47:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: raybbr
In fact, it played out just the way Hiilary said it would...

     

Somebody had to 'man up', and it wasn't Oblamer.
Hillary appears to be the only adult in the room, although it clearly is her fault... We waited three weeks for someone to take responsibility. Obama was clueless as to what to do, so continued going on stupid, mind-numbingly insipid talk shows with dimwitted, adoring sycophants instead of taking charge...

Just like Hillary's ad predicted.

20 posted on 10/16/2012 1:49:09 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: raybbr

I agree with you, Hillary taking responsibility makes her look strong and it makes Obama look like a complete fool, like he does not know what is going on. Furthermore, her taking responsibility gave her the opportunity to remind everyone how much she is in control of. This makes Obama look like a complete puppet and idiot. They did this for the debate.


21 posted on 10/16/2012 1:53:29 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: RummyChick
around washington post
22 posted on 10/16/2012 1:53:45 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Perdogg

I heard her “take responsibility” in the sense of reminding everyone that she is ultimately responsible. I didn’t hear her “take responsibility” in the sense of recognizing that she cost a man his life. I didn’t get the impression she was planning to resign in shame.

So I’m leaning with this writer. She is using judo. She is sucking the wind out of O’s sails.

I have no problem with her reminding everyone that he is a nonentity. He is a nonentity. He is a sock puppet.

The problem is that she really is responsible for what happened in Benghazi. She is responsible for the fact that out of all the diplomatic posts in the world with a marine guard this one had none. She is responsible for the fact that, in place of Blackwater for his bodyguards, he had Libyans with no bullets, at least two of whom were Al Qaeda.

Really, in view of this last, I can’t help but get the queasy feeling that he was set up. But thats just me. I hesitate to say that out loud.


23 posted on 10/16/2012 1:55:23 PM PDT by marron
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To: N. Theknow
Kind of like when liberals apologize: "If anyone was offended...."

That and "I'm sorry you're stupid..."

24 posted on 10/16/2012 1:55:54 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1365 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: raybbr
Hillary's taking charge when Oblamer hides could have the effect of the bus missing Hillary and going right over Oblamer.

Political judo...

25 posted on 10/16/2012 1:56:33 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: TexasNative2000

As if Biden was an option. He’s been sunk presidentially, though for whatever reason not for any other ambition, since way back when he got caught plagiarizing.


26 posted on 10/16/2012 2:00:24 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Bon mots

Don’t try to kid a kidder! That look in Hildabeast’s eyes.... Obummer is now, and always will be, a jive “n-word” to the Clintons!


27 posted on 10/16/2012 2:05:15 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: Perdogg

The link worked for me, and my conclusion reading this tripe from Mr. Gay Conservative is that Ben Shapiro must have at one time told him NO!

There’s nothing all that exciting, all that great about Hillary. She’s absolutely transparent. All one has to do to know Hillary is to look at her history from when she first popped onto the scene through now, today. She is so damned obvious the only ones that can’t see through her are idiots.

The woman isn’t brilliant at all. She’s an obvious conniving piece of work that when her lips move anyone should be able to tell she’s either telling a designer whopper, or covering her massive butt from previous such failed whopper’s.

One can go back in her history, and see for themself the obvious fabrications from the mind of Hillary. Let us not forget. From dodging bullets at the airport to the near death experience 9-11-01 in New York for her jogging daughter as just a couple of examples.


28 posted on 10/16/2012 2:05:52 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Perdogg

Perhaps someone in the Romney camp is thinking strategically...and realizes she needs retirin’....this year...this fall...


29 posted on 10/16/2012 2:07:19 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Perdogg

The article states just what I have been thinking.


30 posted on 10/16/2012 2:07:35 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Perdogg

I have no sympathy for Hillary at all. She knew the risks of being involved in an Obama administration.

I don’t give her any slack for clinton betraying her either. She totally knew and managed and silenced the women he had affairs with all along. She took it because she was riding him to the top and her own ultimate goals.

No sympathy. Never had sympathy for Elizabeth Edwards for the exact same reasons. You marry a shyster lawyer, you know what kind of a sleaze he is, you take his money, benefit from his sleaziness all the way, NO SYMPATHY.


31 posted on 10/16/2012 2:23:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Perdogg
I believe the author is correct about the timing of that declaration - it serves partially to deflect the criticism due the affair in tonight's debate. To attack 0bama over it is to attack Hillary goes this train of thought. And Hillary isn't there to defend herself, but the moderator is. Cute - Crowley defends Hillary against Romney and 0bama sails above the fray.

He is, of course, directly responsible for the outcome of the decisions of his hand-picked cabinet members including and specifically the Secretary of State. But it becomes easy to avoid the topic by saying that yes, mistakes were made and we're investigating them and now can't we just move on to Bain Capital?

And it doesn't really cost Hillary anything because no investigation will touch her and her authority figure status is validated. That's as close to a win-win situation as one might hope for from a multiple murder aided and abetted at the very least by incompetence and lack of professional diligence at the highest levels. Nor is she in any danger of falling on any metaphorical sword. Her apologia was nothing more than, "Yeah, I was in charge. What are you going to do about it?" The answer is nothing.

32 posted on 10/16/2012 2:24:13 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: McGruff
About the author: Kevin DuJan Gay conservative political analyst, essayist, author and radio and TV commentator on politics, pop culture, LGBTQ issues, and current events. Pure speculation. Just like every other blogger.

The one thing I got out of this speculative article is that the author had his panties in a wad over Ben Shapiro. Ben may or may not be a good writer. But this guy is not going to supplant Ben or anyone else anytime soon. This part particularly annoyed me:

Let’s first ask ourselves what “falling on a sword” really means. I found a site called The Phrase Finder that defines the idiom as: to commit suicide or offer your resignation.

Has Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton killed herself this morning? No.

Has she resigned as Secretary of State? No.

Therefore, in the most basic sense, running around exclaiming “Hillary’s fallen on her sword!” is just stupid. If you’re doing this, please stop it. And tell Ben Shapiro to stop it, as well.

Has this guy never heard of a metaphor? Does he really think "falling on a sword" has to be literally interpreted? Did Ben turn him down after he made a pass at him?

The author may be absolutely correct in his speculations; but I was too distracted by the anti-Shapiro hissy fit to notice.

33 posted on 10/16/2012 2:26:17 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Perdogg

Hillary Clinton is forever and always a party first person. She is only clearing the decks to continue the march to destroy America. Dictators are fond of this.


34 posted on 10/16/2012 2:28:15 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: TigersEye

If the author really believes that she should try it in her own writing sometime.

LOL! The author is not a “she”... it’s a bitchy little fudgepacker.


35 posted on 10/16/2012 2:28:34 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Nervous Tick
Oh.

Of course, this morning I woke up to about seven messages from my boyfriend Justin’s mother CarolAnne

Well, it wasn't just the effeminate style of rambling chat that confused me. With all of the good women writers out there it did seem a little odd that this one would get any attention. Pole smoker affirmative action explains it all.

36 posted on 10/16/2012 2:34:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Perdogg; All

hildabest’s revenge?

“It’s not just you! http://hillbuzz.org looks down from here.
Check another site?”


37 posted on 10/16/2012 2:35:44 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Perdogg

I wish somone would refer to what she actually said: She took “responsibility” then blamed “security professionals.”

She parsed sords like a Yale Law grad we all know. Responsibility without accountabillity is double-speak. She admitted nothing: and took blame for nothing.


38 posted on 10/16/2012 2:39:05 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: marron
I heard her “take responsibility” in the sense of reminding everyone that she is ultimately responsible. I didn’t hear her “take responsibility” in the sense of recognizing that she cost a man his life. I didn’t get the impression she was planning to resign in shame.

She cost 4 men their lives and she needs to hold herself accountable and step down immediately. If she is/was that incompetent, then it was Obama's fault for not getting her out of there sooner. He didn't have any problem at all firing Emanuel and Daley. Now, once again, let's see what Congress is going to do about this.

39 posted on 10/16/2012 2:39:23 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Billthedrill
Her apologia was nothing more than, "Yeah, I was in charge. What are you going to do about it?" The answer is nothing.

Yep.

40 posted on 10/16/2012 2:45:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Perdogg

It’s not “falling on your sword” if you get up and walk away.


41 posted on 10/16/2012 2:56:12 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Perdogg; a fool in paradise

I fell on a pair of scissors once, and they weren’t mine!


42 posted on 10/16/2012 2:59:58 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Perdogg

Captain Obvious took way too long to get to his point.


43 posted on 10/16/2012 3:01:32 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Perdogg
I don't know about this Ben Shapiro, but Kevin DuJan is not somebody who should be throwing stones at anyone else's stylistic glass house.

I guess "fall on your sword" implies finality, and you can't assume that Hillary's career is over. What Shapiro should have said is something like "took one for the team," but one metaphor doesn't seem like a big deal.

44 posted on 10/16/2012 3:04:03 PM PDT by x
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To: chuckee
Admitting incompetence is not enough. There must be a consequence for it.

You are right, sir.

Now, I agree with the author that Hillary has taken the upper hand in this political debacle. She has made Obama look like a little man. In fact, he was smart enough to realize that and finally took some of the blame on himself this afternoon.

But when I heard that she'd shouldered the blame, I was instantly reminded of Janet Reno's taking responsibility for the killing of some 80 American citizens in Waco because they had unorthodox religious beliefs.

What does it matter if someone takes responsibility for something if there are no consequences? The dead ambassador is forgotten. This mess is nothing but a political play now.

45 posted on 10/16/2012 3:28:18 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Teach a man to fish and you lose a Democratic voter.)
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To: TigersEye
She takes forever to get to a point and it's all meaningless drivel along the way.

That's because the author is a he, who would have been better suited to have written breathless prose for Cosmopolitan along around 1975.

46 posted on 10/16/2012 3:59:02 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Smilin' Joe Biden: Obama's life insurance policy.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

very good analysis & post!

Agreed.

enuff said.

blessings,bobo


47 posted on 10/16/2012 4:22:19 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: Billthedrill
I believe the author is correct about the timing of that declaration - it serves partially to deflect the criticism due the affair in tonight's debate. To attack 0bama over it is to attack Hillary goes this train of thought. And Hillary isn't there to defend herself, but the moderator is. Cute - Crowley defends Hillary against Romney and 0bama sails above the fray.
. . . but then there was the Beruit Marine Barracks truck bombing back during the Reagan Administration. Reagan was sake who was responsible for failing to anticipate and prevent that attack. Reagan said that he accepted that responsibility and was not going to blame the people on the ground in Lebanon for it.
Sam Donaldson then asked Reagan if he was going to resign. Of course Reagan’s meaning was that people could consider that in any decision to vote for against him. Romney could legitimately ask Obama why that same logic did not apply to Obama and Bengazi. Now that should be a no-brainer for Obama to agree to, since in reality anyone can vote for or against any candidate for any reason. But of course, when you are a messiah, that doesn’t fit your idea of the way the world is supposed to work.

And of course, there is the issue of the cock-and-bull story about the video which Obama’s administration took to the UN and to Pakistan and Egypt . . . to say nothing of the "Osama is dead and GM is alive” meme.

He is, of course, directly responsible for the outcome of the decisions of his hand-picked cabinet members including and specifically the Secretary of State. But it becomes easy to avoid the topic by saying that yes, mistakes were made and we're investigating them and now can't we just move on to Bain Capital?
I think Mitt might be hard to budge off of that issue without leaving that challenge to Obama’s foreign policy hanging in the air.

48 posted on 10/16/2012 4:58:19 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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