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To: ScaniaBoy
Really?

Yeh really

Sounds very strange.

What ??? that Armstrong always had high rbc and testosterone counts??? Why would that surprise you about a winner of 7TdFs??? and someone with such a magnificent training regimen??? and someone who used EPO and testosterone in his cancer treatment???

I would be interested in blood data from LA from other time periods except 2009 - 2010.

Read the USADA Report -- it's the closest you will get to them.

68 posted on 10/22/2012 6:58:14 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Dear Uncle,

You may rightly be upset about cheating in general and in sports in particular, however, that does not excuse you from writing pure rot.

Patients post-chemotherapy do not have high blood counts, nor do they have high testosterone levels. To find this post cancer treatment would certainly not excuse an athlete, unless he was shown to undergo continuous replacement therapy. However, someone in need of EPO for medical reasons would not be able to compete at any level.

Also, as I mentioned in an earlier post (in another thread) there has always been a fear that EPO would act to promote cancer regrowth. It has, and is still used, in those cases where there is an absolute need to promote rbc production, but only then.

When it comes to LAs blood counts, they have as far as I know, never been exceptionally high. Apparently you don’t have any more knowledge since you point me towards the USADA report. I have read the relevant parts and it does not contain any data nor any physical evidence of blood manipulation.

However, the low rbc does not preclude doping or blood manipulation, but it shows how difficult it is to analyze the blood profile of athletes.

Finally, this discussion can be broken down into several parts.

There is a moral discussion about cheating in sports, and for the record I am against all forms of doping, though, unfortunately the grey zones are getting wider and wider.

Then there is a discussion of the weight of physical evidence against Armstrong. In that discussion it would be great if those commenting would post facts and not “hearsays” and “what is commonly known”.


77 posted on 10/22/2012 7:30:26 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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