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Barack Obama RIPPED By Bayonet Co. "We're Still Relevant!!!"
tmz.com ^ | 10/23/12

Posted on 10/23/2012 8:46:22 AM PDT by Justaham

President Barack Obama has offended the bayonet community ... TMZ has learned.

TMZ spoke with multiple people in the bayonet industry who tell us they were shocked and even offended when Obama brought up the weapon during last night's debate.

FYI -- Obama was going after Romney when he said, "You mentioned the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military's changed."

According to the official U.S. Marine Corps website, every Marine is STILL required to complete a bayonet training program ... because "the weapon becomes just as effective [as a rifle] in close combat situations."

We spoke with Dan Riker from Bayonet Inc. -- a leading military surplus outlet that specializes in bayonets -- who tells us he believes Obama's comment was "ignorant ... because our soldiers still use bayonets."

He adds, “[Bayonets] are still distributed to the military all the time -- he should get educated on it”

For the record, Riker says he won't be voting for Obama ... "and I didn't vote for him last election either."

(Excerpt) Read more at tmz.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; bayonet; marines; militaryvote; usmc

1 posted on 10/23/2012 8:46:23 AM PDT by Justaham
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To: Justaham

Now....understand....this is the commander in chief saying we don’t use bayonets....


2 posted on 10/23/2012 8:52:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: Sacajaweau

Say bye bye to Virginia, Obama.


3 posted on 10/23/2012 8:53:28 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: Justaham

I think Obama’s a tool for that but his point is still valid. Romney is using a date that reflects a VERY different time of war strategy with our fleet. I agree, though, that Obama showed his own cluelessness but the lazy voter will see Obama’s point more than Romney’s in that sound bite. Remember, our culture is all about soundbites and Obama bit him on that one for the shallow voter.


4 posted on 10/23/2012 8:55:06 AM PDT by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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To: Justaham
Fix bayonets!!

Semper Fi! Do or die!

5 posted on 10/23/2012 8:55:54 AM PDT by Perseverando (Gun control? It's the OBOTS who are filling up prisons for violent crimes, not the Tea Party.)
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To: Justaham

The Spirit of the Bayonet is to KILL! Obama’s spirit of the military involves homo erotic fantasies. Long live the BAYONET!


6 posted on 10/23/2012 9:00:48 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: TADSLOS

I also understand that our troops use horses in some remote areas of Afghanistan.


7 posted on 10/23/2012 9:05:17 AM PDT by rickomatic
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To: Justaham

Not too many complete horses left but there is one very prominent horses rear still present and spewing what horses anuses spew.


8 posted on 10/23/2012 9:08:32 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (To know Bama is to no Bama.)
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To: smith288

To be fair to Romney he mentioned a specific number of aircraft that was requested and he compared it to the number we had. He was making a broader point that the military is weaker just as Obama was making a broader point that the military was more modern (they weren’t really addressing each others points)


9 posted on 10/23/2012 9:10:08 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: Justaham

One of the most economical ways to take out Walkers.


10 posted on 10/23/2012 9:11:06 AM PDT by McGruff (SNARKY is the keyword for today.)
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To: Justaham

First, VA has been lost to Obozo for awhile now...”corpsman” helped as well as a war on coal, sequestration, cuts in supporting vets and the defense industry, obamacare, etc.
Secondly, Obozo made this mistake while being an a**wipe answering Rombo, talking down, being pedantic and a smug bastard...which was an utter failure because he still had NO idea what he was talking about.
“Ships that go under the water”... Holy crap, man.


11 posted on 10/23/2012 9:12:27 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: smith288

The good news is that there are no shallow undecided voters to win or lose. The shallows are already committed to Obama.


12 posted on 10/23/2012 9:14:21 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (To know Bama is to no Bama.)
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To: smith288

The good news is that there are no shallow undecided voters to win or lose. The shallows are already committed to Obama.


13 posted on 10/23/2012 9:16:17 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (To know Bama is to no Bama.)
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To: Justaham
...Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets...

I'm so damn glad my Son-in-Law wasn't watching the debate last night and heard Obama say that idiotic statement. He was in the Old Guard, and participated in many a funeral at Arlington National Cemetery...


He would have put a fist through the TV.
14 posted on 10/23/2012 9:22:21 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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To: rickomatic
I also understand that our troops use horses in some remote areas of Afghanistan.

Horses and mules and not only in Afghanistan, but Obama is the smartest guy in the room, so those must not count.

15 posted on 10/23/2012 9:28:42 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: COBOL2Java
He would have put a fist through the TV.

I would have thought a bayonet, not a fist. ;-)

16 posted on 10/23/2012 9:30:52 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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17 posted on 10/23/2012 9:35:00 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Justaham

There’s a Brit who led a bayonet charge in Afghanistan about to receive their highest award (a day or two ago, on FR)


18 posted on 10/23/2012 9:37:58 AM PDT by capt B
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To: Justaham

There’s a Brit who led a bayonet charge in Afghanistan about to receive their highest award (story, a day or two ago, on FR)


19 posted on 10/23/2012 9:40:47 AM PDT by capt B
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To: Justaham

USMC BAYONET

PURPOSE
From 500 yards, every Marine is accurate with a rifle. Attach the OKC-3S Bayonet, and the weapon becomes just as effective in close combat situations. Also a Marine's multi-purpose fighting knife, the OKC-3S is the weapon of choice when shots can't be fired. Every Marine receives bayonet training in the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program (MCMAP) and on the Bayonet Assault Course in Recruit Training.

FEATURES
Grooved, non-slip handle with steel guard and butt
Polyester elastomer sheath offers weight and noise reduction
Serrations at base of blade for utility knife purposes
Sharp tip capable of puncturing a ballistic vest
Ergonomic grip design helps prevent training-related, repetitive-strain injuries
Grip embossed with an Eagle, Globe and Anchor

SPECIFICATIONS
Overall length: 13.25 inches
Blade length: 8 inches
Blade Material: Carbon steel
Weight: 1.25 pounds with sheath
8" partially serrated blade
Non-reflective phosphate finish
Fielded in 2003

BAYONET TRAINING (See Sidebar)

Charge with lethal precision
A bayonet is a removable fighting knife that attaches to the muzzle of a rifle barrel. In close combat situations where a rifle cannot be fired, the bayonet is an indispensible, lethal weapon. Learning how to effectively use a bayonet is an important part of Marine Corps training.

On the bayonet assault course, recruits learn to attach and detach the bayonet from the rifle quickly and to engage targets aggressively. They become masters of offensive and defensive fighting techniques.

20 posted on 10/23/2012 9:47:41 AM PDT by Perseverando (Gun control? It's the OBOTS who are filling up prisons for violent crimes, not the Tea Party.)
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To: Justaham

Someone needs to make a chair using bayonets as the legs and welded together horseshoes as the back of it...


21 posted on 10/23/2012 9:51:40 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: smith288
I wonder how many times we need to go through fleet drawdowns and fleet build ups to get to the point of understanding that a stable and capable naval force in peacetime ensures the very maritime peace we seek to keep.

Yes, the current wars are in navally insignificant Iraq and landlocked Afghanistan, but the maritime threat is the same as it has been since the end of the Cold War, the burgeoning naval power of China, and its threat to what used to generally be called Taiwan, before the cowards in DC began referring to it as Chinese Taipei.

Now, the Chinese Navy seeks to become THE hegemonic maritime power in the Western Pacific and has already rattled its sabers at the PI, Japan, Taiwan, and India. By backing NK, they have also indirectly threatened S, Korea.

Supporting naval power sufficient to the task is an essential guarantee to our allies in the region. 316 ships, at the operational tempo they are asked to operate at, especially with an oversized fraction of our naval power located rather foolishly on the Eastern Seaboard as some sort of welfare project, isn't getting the geopolitical task done.

The fallacy of government planners is always taking the current conflicts to be the future of conflict. With China practicing shooting down satellites and practicing submarine warfare against our carriers, the future of naval conflict, if anything, looks more dangerous and complex than it ever was. However, the CINC apparently thinks we need more Kerrys on Swiftboats, and more frogmen even if they can't make them very fast without lowering standards, and fewer advanced warships and submarines, which could actually keep China's territorial ambitions in check.
22 posted on 10/23/2012 9:57:13 AM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: Justaham
According to the official U.S. Marine Corps website, every Marine is STILL required to complete a bayonet training program ... because "the weapon becomes just as effective [as a rifle] in close combat situations."

Jeez and this NUTCASE we have as a C-in-C doesn't know that?

The 'USS BARRY SOTO Obama' should be a GARBAGE BARGE for the MILITARY!!! It would be Fitting!!

jeez, remember when we had a REAL DEMOCRAT Presidebnt who was in the MILITARY... Jimmy Carter....(Not the worst president ever...thanks to the KENYAN.)

23 posted on 10/23/2012 10:10:01 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!)
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To: TADSLOS

The Army still trains some troops in the use of horses, such as some units received/receive before deploying to Afghanistan.

Some troops still carry and fight with tomahawks, I think there have been at least 2 cases where tomahawks were used in hand to hand.


24 posted on 10/23/2012 10:16:38 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Justaham

I just had a horrendous thought, when Barry Hussein Soetoro finally buys the farm he will be buried in Arlington Cemetery. Maybe we should submit a proposal to Congress to have everyone else moved, or put him somewhere else.


25 posted on 10/23/2012 10:19:49 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: TADSLOS

I thought he would like the idea of the military using horses and other livestock as part of the green initiative he is trying to implement on the military. /S


26 posted on 10/23/2012 10:19:49 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: smith288

Did anyone notice Zero called a submarine a ship? A sub is a boat and carriers, destroyers, etc are ships. Bet a lot of submariners caught that incorrect terminology.


27 posted on 10/23/2012 10:27:09 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (The LEFT's intolerance of the RIGHT is intolerable.)
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To: knittnmom
I would have thought a bayonet, not a fist. ;-)

That too! You'd be awestruck at how seriously the Old Guard soldiers take their sacred duty to the honored dead. I can tell you my Son-in-Law's buddies have some choice words for you-know-who.

28 posted on 10/23/2012 10:27:37 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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To: smith288
I think Obama’s a tool for that but his point is still valid. Romney is using a date that reflects a VERY different time of war strategy with our fleet. I agree, though, that Obama showed his own cluelessness but the lazy voter will see Obama’s point more than Romney’s in that sound bite. Remember, our culture is all about soundbites and Obama bit him on that one for the shallow voter.

The shallow voter is already in Zero's camp; it's the not-so-shallow voter that will see the inanity of using a one-liner to try to make fun of a comment that started with, "the Navy says it needs 313 ships to accomplish its mission, we now have 280 and it may drop to 200 with sequestration". Zero's quip was both irrelevant and made light of a serious topic - the Navy says it is unable to fulfill its commitments with curent numbers and the numbers are fixing to head south in a big way. Obam's reply made as much sense as telling us we could save as much oil as he was stopping us from producing by airing up our tires and tuning our cars..

29 posted on 10/23/2012 10:35:49 AM PDT by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: matginzac

Keep in mind that the only dem with any submarine experience was Ted Kennedy.


30 posted on 10/23/2012 10:39:53 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: COBOL2Java

I’ve been to a couple of funerals that had military presence - one Army, one Navy. Good men, every one.


31 posted on 10/23/2012 10:43:15 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: ansel12

Yes, tactical tomahawks are standard issue with infantry and special operators. Tomahawks are a versatile tool and, of course, a deadly close combat weapon when used in properly trained hands.


32 posted on 10/23/2012 10:53:11 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: trebb
The shallow voter is already in Zero's camp;

That's false. There is plenty of uninformed voters out there who are naturally lean to the right due to family, workplace, friends....

To claim ignorance is only on the left is folly. If an uninformed right leaning voter hears that soundbite, it may effect them if they aren't as engaged in Obama's past, policies, motives etc etc etc.
33 posted on 10/23/2012 10:54:43 AM PDT by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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To: TADSLOS

I knew privately owned tomahawks were allowed and have been in continuous use in the army, but I didn’t know that they were available as standard issue.

As someone who never even got to see the Airborne switchblade that was always claimed to exist, and was supposedly ready to be issued at some mysterious point, do you have any links to mention of tomahawks as being formally issued?


34 posted on 10/23/2012 11:24:07 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Justaham

My impression was TMZ leans quite left. Notice they have been coming out with more Romney sentiments lately - wonder if they are changing a few minds there?


35 posted on 10/23/2012 12:25:58 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: ansel12
Army ATCV Rapid Fielding Initiative

Army Magazine Article

36 posted on 10/23/2012 12:53:12 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: Justaham

Let’s try to be fair to the C in C.

In our Civil War, in which there were a fair number of actual massed bayonet charges, out of every 1000 men killed or wounded, 4 suffered injury from a bayonet thrust.

I would assume the numbers have gone way down since then.

So while bayonets may still be around and issued to soldiers, they are apparently very seldom used.


37 posted on 10/23/2012 1:40:14 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: TADSLOS

Thanks, now that I see the word breaching, I recall that I had read about this before but it didn’t really soak in as a formal issuing of the tomahawk until seeing it in the context of today’s discussion.

I won’t forget it this time, the United States Army issues fighting tomahawks.


38 posted on 10/23/2012 3:00:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: CrazyIvan

Oh har har...!
Funny....


39 posted on 10/23/2012 3:25:49 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: CrazyIvan
Yes, and all of Admiral Ted's crew perished in the maiden voyage of USS Oldsmobile.
40 posted on 10/24/2012 7:36:04 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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