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Background Regarding Obama, Cabinet Official's Abandonment of Benghazi Officers, Staff
Vanity | 10/26/2012 | Self

Posted on 10/26/2012 12:01:09 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen

There are many powerful outside influences on both Obama and Hillary and many high-level American politicians.

These links are mostly from wikipedia, so it can't be said that these are "conservative conspiracy theories".

There are myriad think tanks, organizations, governmental agencies, NGO's (non-governmental organizations) that do a lot together to strategize, gather information, and take actions of all kinds, i.e., political, economic, academic, etc., doing what they "think is best for... USA/World/Themselves/etc."

From the early 1900's, NGOs have had extremely significant impact on U.S. government policies - the first major one being, perhaps, the design of the Post-WWI negotiations (Council on Foreign Relations). Now, if the "help" is in a "good" direction, we tend to give a pass to the idea that our elected officials are relying on unelected groups to essentially develop policy. But such a pass is the beginning of a slippery slope that leaves us open to problems. Socialism had targeted the U.S. university system in order to enter the upper echelons of American leadership as early as 1905 when Upton Sinclair founded the Intercollegiate Socialist Society.

NGOs are the real strategists and policy makers that most politicians listen to for advice; politicians who work well with them receive their full backing and rise to power. Politicians who don't rock the boat are not opposed while others, of course, have the NGOs working against them.

George Soros runs the most significant network of NGOs; his political actions started years ago, perhaps here...

Charter 77 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_77 (standard story) http://frontpagemag.com/2010/jamie-glazov/kgb-yesterday-today-and-tomorrow-2/ (another account)

His network helped out with these and other "regime changes" as he developed cookie-cutter regime change methodology...

Velvet Revolution - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velvet_revolution Orange Revolution - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_revolution Rose Revolution - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_revolution Tulip Revolution - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_revolution

The U.S. government teamed up with the Soros Open Society Institute (OSI) to "help out" Kyrgyzstan - Hillary loves this one... American University of Central Asia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_University_of_Central_Asia

Another interesting example of influence (it must be nice to have your former students/employees/etc. well-placed in governments all over the world)... Viktor Orbán - Prime Minister of Hungary - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Orban (note his education)

Blending of CIA - State Dept - Dem/Repub parties is present in these and probably many others (if you read these you'll see where they openly admit to their activities, influence and cooperation - it's no secret)...

United States Agency for International Development (USAID) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Agency_for_International_Development National Democratic Institute for International Affairs - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Institute_for_International_Affairs International Republican Institute - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Republican_Institute Freedom House - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_House Carnegie Endowment for International Peace - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Endowment_for_International_Peace

Now mix in private sector, media, big business, etc. (can you spot any interesting names ?)...

New America Foundation - http://www.newamerica.net/about/funding (A lot of names you know, you'll have to click on the link)

Council on Foreign Relations - http://www.cfr.org/ Officers and Directors

Board of Directors Carla A. Hills, Co-Chairman; Chairman and CEO, Hills & Company Robert E. Rubin, Co-Chairman; Former Secretary of the U.S. Treasury David M. Rubenstein, Vice Chairman; Cofounder and Managing Director, The Carlyle Group Richard E. Salomon, Vice Chairman; Managing Partner, East End Advisors, LLC Richard N. Haass, President, Council on Foreign Relations John P. Abizaid, Senior Partner, JPA Partners LLC Peter Ackerman, Managing Director, Rockport Capital, Inc. Madeleine K. Albright, Chair, Albright Stonebridge Group LLC Alan S. Blinder, Gordon S. Rentschler Memorial Professor of Economics and Public Affairs, Princeton University Mary Boies, Managing Partner, Boies & McInnis LLP David G. Bradley, Chairman, Atlantic Media Company Tom Brokaw, Special Correspondent, NBC News Sylvia Mathews Burwell, President, Walmart Foundation Martin S. Feldstein, President Emeritus, National Bureau of Economic Research Stephen Friedman, Chairman, Stone Point Capital Ann M. Fudge, Pamela Gann President, Claremont McKenna College Thomas H. Glocer Peter B. Henry, Dean, Stern School of Business J. Tomilson Hill, Vice Chairman, The Blackstone Group Donna J. Hrinak, President, Boeing Brazil, The Boeing Company Alberto Ibargüen, President, John S. and James L. Knight Foundation Shirley Ann Jackson, President, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Muhtar Kent, Chairman and CEO, The Coca-Cola Company Jami Miscik, President and Vice Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc. Joseph S. Nye Jr., Distinguished Service Professor, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University James W. Owens, Chairman and CEO Emeritus, Caterpillar Inc. Eduardo J. Padrón, President, Miami Dade College Peter G. Peterson, Chairman, Peter G. Peterson Foundation Colin L. Powell, United States Army (Ret.) Penny Pritzker, Founder, Chairman, and CEO, PSP Capital Partners and Pritzker Realty Group George Rupp, President and CEO, International Rescue Committee Frederick W. Smith, Chairman, President, and CEO, Federal Express Corporation Margaret Warner, Senior Correspondent, PBS NewsHour Vin Weber, Co-Chairman and Partner, Mercury/Clark & Weinstock Christine Todd Whitman, President, The Whitman Strategy Group Fareed Zakaria, Host, CNN's Fareed Zakaria GPS Officers Carla A. Hills, Co-Chairman Robert E. Rubin, Co-Chairman David M. Rubenstein, Vice Chairman Richard E. Salomon, Vice Chairman Richard N. Haass, President Keith Olson, Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Treasurer James M. Lindsay, Senior Vice President, Director of Studies, and Maurice R. Greenberg Chair Nancy D. Bodurtha, Vice President, Meetings and Membership Irina A. Faskianos, Vice President, National Program and Outreach Suzanne E. Helm, Vice President, Development Jan Mowder Hughes, Vice President, Human Resources and Administration L. Camille Massey, Vice President, Global Strategy and Programs Lisa Shields, Vice President, Global Communications and Media Relations Lynda Hammes, Publisher, Foreign Affairs Jeffrey A. Reinke, Secretary of the Corporation Officers and Directors, Emeritus & Honorary Leslie H. Gelb President Emeritus Maurice R. Greenberg Honorary Vice Chairman Peter G. Peterson Chairman Emeritus David Rockefeller Honorary Chairman

European Council on Foreign Relations - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Council_on_Foreign_Relations (note the help from Soros to start ECFR)

tiny sample of Soros groups... Open Society Institute - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Society_Institute Other Soros Foundations: Open Society Initiative for Eastern Africa Open Society Foundation for South Africa Open Society Initiative for Southern Africa Open Society Initiative for West Africa Open Society Afghanistan Soros Foundation–Kazakhstan Soros Foundation–Kyrgyzstan Tifa Foundation Indonesia Open Society Forum–Mongolia Foundation Open Society Institute–Pakistan Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation–Tajikistan Open Society Foundation for Albania Open Society Foundations–Armenia Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation–Azerbaijan Open Society European Policy Institute Open Society Fund–Bosnia and Herzegovina Open Society Institute–Sofia Open Society Fund–Prague Open Estonia Foundation Open Society Institute–Paris Open Society Georgia Foundation Open Society Institute–Budapest Kosovo Foundation for Open Society Soros Foundation–Latvia Foundation Open Society Institute–Macedonia Soros Foundation–Moldova Foundation Open Society Institute–Representative Office Montenegro

... this is, of course, only a small sample.

The Clintons/Obama or any one of the many Socialist/Communist/New Left that are presently well-placed in the U.S. government are all really on the same page, strategically, as the left-wing NGOs sampled above; they're on their boards, give speeches to them, etc. There are also NGO connections to Russian and islamic leadership, obviously, as the NGOs have organizations and considerable connections in terms of board members, staffers and funding both in Russia and in islamic nations.

Many of these NGO people, including Soros himself, publicly speak about their plans and goals, which are basically toppling the Judeo-Christian U.S. and remaking the world, one nation at a time, according to their ideas of right and wrong. Of course, how it all works out for the citizens of these nations, individually, is of no great to concern to the "thought leaders" in these circles, they're "concerned" with whole populations, not individuals. The intelligentsia that make up these NGOs, however, leave off the idea of toppling the U.S. from their websites, publications, etc. They do publish their plans and discussions about drug legalization, spending billions in the third world, social justice, etc., in a nice sanitized way, though all of it is either direct or indirect "code" for efforts designed to weaken America and other civilized Western nations from within, with long run goals of planned governments and economies. It's literally a combination of Walmart, Soros, the CIA, etc., all working to "fix the world".

The past few decades demonstrate the tactics today's NGOS are using for implanting external groups to foment revolution and topple regimes. It's painfully obvious that this is what the so-called Arab spring amounts to - efforts to topple regimes using external revolutionaries. The U.S. government and other governments and various NGOs are participating much more openly than in the "old days", as they do this in the name of progress and it's been made quite politically palatable. Both Syria and Libya are on the stated U.S. government agenda; both Presidential candidates support regime change in Syria, so both candidates are acceptable to U.S.-aligned interests. Obama is simply tied to the New Left directly while Romney is aligned with those who subscribe more to a conventional American NGO viewpoint (clearly conservative Americans should place enormous pressure on him and track everything he does when elected). Many corporations are on the boards of these NGOs; they know that the plan is to remake the mideast. This is the nexus between big business, ideological philanthropy and government.

There appear to be 3 primary forces working in concert in the case of Arab uprisings: the U.S. government, the revolutionaries and one or more sophisticated NGO 3rd parties, and all three forces are thinking that they (individually) will come out on top in the end, i.e., are using the other two to achieve their ends.

Big business connections of these NGOs that are big publicly-held companies are simply working on securing company profits. The billionaire idealogue is different, however, he's working on his own plans. That's the dangerous part; he has plans for the U.S. itself, and he has thousands of influential Americans signed on to some version of his game plan that they perceive.

Trouble is with all NGOs, they are unelected, despite the fact that the NGOs tout their support of "democracy". So however well-intended they are, they inherently and arrogantly imply that both citizens and governments need NGOs to dictate to them how to live their lives, and citizens have no opportunity to refuse once the NGO gets enough support for whatever plans they come up with. Suddenly there is a regime change and everybody has to just... deal. Whether it's Soros's palliative care (death care) initiatives, or the New Left's long-term goal of eliminating any meaningful observance of faith, powerful secular intellectuals think nothing of condemning those who would decline their New World Order.

There are some NGOs that are more conservative/small-business oriented, but far more that are leftist. The lefties, of course, have been working, for over 100 years, on somehow "undoing" America, despite the fact that their theories, like Upton Sinclair's experimental town in New Jersey, have always resulted in things being far worse than if they had just let well enough alone and gotten a real job.

The really big secret that all news media is hush about - Obama and Hillary had everything to lose, politically, and nothing to gain - by refusing to give the order to save the Ambassador and the staff. The news media focuses instead on debating whether the administration said it was planned or spontaneous, terrorism or a demonstration - that's the distraction that keeps the world from doing some simple logical deduction. Obama was not against ordering dangerous operations in general, since he had no philosophical qualms about ordering the UBL kill; what we saw was only a resistance on Obama's part to authorize the UBL kill until he was cornered into doing so. Obama and Hillary both could have looked like heros if they fulfilled their duty and simply said yes to attempting a rescue and let the military do it's job, even if it failed. At least they would have tried, and Americans would largely have rallied behind both Obama and Hillary. In fact, Obama could have used FDR's old "don't change horses in the middle of the stream" line and say he is needed in order to "finish the job" on al qaeda. The only logical reason for them to take a dive and do something so vile and politically costly to themselves was that they had some sort of understanding regarding what some other person or group wanted them to do - which was obviously to simply wait for notification that Ambassador Stevens was being held hostage. If this was indeed the plan, it even went so far as to keep security minimal at the Consulate all year long, which avoided the obvious red flag that would have gone up if security was suddenly reduced just before 9/11/2012. The security professionals are all perplexed by their requests being turned down from the start. If this theory is true, it offers a straightforward explanation of resistance to providing security in one of the most dangerous places in the world. Such an October surprise, which would have turned this Presidential election on it's head, would have been in the works for perhaps a year. And no one in the administration would really have to even know about it, except for the video cover story; it could have been all planned externally to the government, since the standard Obama administration "hold back" policy was all the attackers would have needed to buy them a few hours time.

The big hush is because the New Left permeates government - most politicians, even conservatives, are well aware of this, they just say the person is "liberal". Many so-called liberal politicians have histories of communist sympathy that are kept quiet in the news, and left-wing NGOs drive much of our public policy. America has an islam problem which has been initiated by it's communist problem. American liberal politicians, of course, don't outwardly make a show of supporting Russia, though many publicly support smaller communist nations. The NGOs are not completely working for Russia or the U.S. - they have their own agendas. In many ways, the NGOs are working against both Russia and the U.S. in the long-term, while also working with both as well in near-term operations. This is why intelligence communities are continually in "ambigous" situations.

The big hush is because NGOs have formed a shadow party within the Democratic party. The only reason the Democratic party is competitive at this point is because of the campaign finance reform that was engineered to allow NGOs to provide heavy funding to Democratic politicians like Obama and Hillary who are aligned with them.

The big hush is because the news media should be all over NGOs like ticks on a hound with front-page news investigations, but instead they have become mere pawns. No one in the media even ever mentions communism or the New Left despite the fact that they are widely written about; the anti-McCarthyism ploy succeeded, the populace is told that communism does not exist any more. Muckrakers, magnates and madmen have actually joined together to entice then enslave Americans to the immorality of political correctness, consumerism and secular humanism. In order to beat this, Americans themselves are going to have to find creative ways to investigate it - and enlighten enough of the nation - to turn back the tide. Holding Obama and Cabinet-level members of the administration responsible for this refusal to preserve, protect and defend is a great place to start.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: benghazigate; enemywithin; hillary; marxistbrotherhood; marxistcoup; mepi; ngos; obama; rico; soros; treason4dncrico; treason4rico

1 posted on 10/26/2012 12:01:09 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen
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To: PieterCasparzen

It is up to us to determine why the Obama Administration has chosen to Cover Up what happened.

What are they trying in vain to hide?

The longer Secretary of Statements Hilly takes to “get to the bottom of this,” the more obvious it is that the Benghazi Cover Up was hastily designed to hide a VERY BIG US SECRET TOPIC.

My guess is that the CIA had discovered that some of the 20,000 Libyan Missiles were found in the possession of Ansar al-Sharia, or al-Qaeda who were then shipping them to Syria, and Obama knew all about it.

Can Hilly and Billy keep this a secret until after November 6, 2012?

Their lives just might depend on it - - - .

Meanwhile, Obama and Biden have lied to the American People, as well as their key officials have repeatedly lied to us.

The White House Benghazi Cover Up had closed ranks behind their Commander In Chief.

Could Obama have survived the November Election with the embarrassment of a resurgent al-Qaeda in Libya?

Possibly, IF he would have told the truth at his first public announcement, and rallied Americans to “not change horses in the middle of the stream,” etc. etc., etc.

No way in Hell, once Obama lied.


2 posted on 10/26/2012 12:20:26 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: PieterCasparzen

Clean links...

George Soros runs the most significant network of NGOs; his political actions started years ago, perhaps here...

Charter 77 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_77 (standard story)
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/jamie-glazov/kgb-yesterday-today-and-tomorrow-2/ (another account)

His network helped out with these and other “regime changes” as he developed cookie-cutter regime change methodology...

Velvet Revolution - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velvet_revolution
Orange Revolution - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_revolution
Rose Revolution - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_revolution
Tulip Revolution - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_revolution

The U.S. government teamed up with the Soros Open Society Institute (OSI) to “help out” Kyrgyzstan - Hillary loves this one...
American University of Central Asia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_University_of_Central_Asia

Another interesting example of influence (it must be nice to have your former students/employees/etc. well-placed in governments all over the world)...
Viktor Orbán - Prime Minister of Hungary - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Orban
(note his education)

Blending of CIA - State Dept - Dem/Repub parties is present in these and probably many others (if you read these you’ll see where they openly admit to their activities, influence and cooperation - it’s no secret)...

United States Agency for International Development (USAID) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Agency_for_International_Development
National Democratic Institute for International Affairs - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Institute_for_International_Affairs
International Republican Institute - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Republican_Institute
Freedom House - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_House
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Endowment_for_International_Peace

Now mix in private sector, media, big business, etc. (can you spot any interesting names ?)...

New America Foundation - http://www.newamerica.net/about/funding
(A lot of names you know, you’ll have to click on the link)


3 posted on 10/26/2012 12:21:26 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Formatted name lists...

Council on Foreign Relations - http://www.cfr.org/
Officers and Directors

Board of Directors
Carla A. Hills, Co-Chairman; Chairman and CEO, Hills & Company
Robert E. Rubin, Co-Chairman; Former Secretary of the U.S. Treasury
David M. Rubenstein, Vice Chairman; Cofounder and Managing Director, The Carlyle Group
Richard E. Salomon, Vice Chairman; Managing Partner, East End Advisors, LLC
Richard N. Haass, President, Council on Foreign Relations
John P. Abizaid, Senior Partner, JPA Partners LLC
Peter Ackerman, Managing Director, Rockport Capital, Inc.
Madeleine K. Albright, Chair, Albright Stonebridge Group LLC
Alan S. Blinder, Gordon S. Rentschler Memorial Professor of Economics and Public Affairs, Princeton University
Mary Boies, Managing Partner, Boies & McInnis LLP
David G. Bradley, Chairman, Atlantic Media Company
Tom Brokaw, Special Correspondent, NBC News
Sylvia Mathews Burwell, President, Walmart Foundation
Martin S. Feldstein, President Emeritus, National Bureau of Economic Research
Stephen Friedman, Chairman, Stone Point Capital
Ann M. Fudge, Pamela Gann
President, Claremont McKenna College
Thomas H. Glocer
Peter B. Henry, Dean, Stern School of Business
J. Tomilson Hill, Vice Chairman, The Blackstone Group
Donna J. Hrinak, President, Boeing Brazil, The Boeing Company
Alberto Ibargüen, President, John S. and James L. Knight Foundation
Shirley Ann Jackson, President, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Muhtar Kent, Chairman and CEO, The Coca-Cola Company
Jami Miscik, President and Vice Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
Joseph S. Nye Jr., Distinguished Service Professor, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University
James W. Owens, Chairman and CEO Emeritus, Caterpillar Inc.
Eduardo J. Padrón, President, Miami Dade College
Peter G. Peterson, Chairman, Peter G. Peterson Foundation
Colin L. Powell, United States Army (Ret.)
Penny Pritzker, Founder, Chairman, and CEO, PSP Capital Partners and Pritzker Realty Group
George Rupp, President and CEO, International Rescue Committee
Frederick W. Smith, Chairman, President, and CEO, Federal Express Corporation
Margaret Warner, Senior Correspondent, PBS NewsHour
Vin Weber, Co-Chairman and Partner, Mercury/Clark & Weinstock
Christine Todd Whitman, President, The Whitman Strategy Group
Fareed Zakaria, Host, CNN’s Fareed Zakaria GPS
Officers
Carla A. Hills, Co-Chairman
Robert E. Rubin, Co-Chairman
David M. Rubenstein, Vice Chairman
Richard E. Salomon, Vice Chairman
Richard N. Haass, President
Keith Olson, Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Treasurer
James M. Lindsay, Senior Vice President, Director of Studies, and Maurice R. Greenberg Chair
Nancy D. Bodurtha, Vice President, Meetings and Membership
Irina A. Faskianos, Vice President, National Program and Outreach
Suzanne E. Helm, Vice President, Development
Jan Mowder Hughes, Vice President, Human Resources and Administration
L. Camille Massey, Vice President, Global Strategy and Programs
Lisa Shields, Vice President, Global Communications and Media Relations
Lynda Hammes, Publisher, Foreign Affairs
Jeffrey A. Reinke, Secretary of the Corporation
Officers and Directors, Emeritus & Honorary
Leslie H. Gelb
President Emeritus
Maurice R. Greenberg
Honorary Vice Chairman
Peter G. Peterson
Chairman Emeritus
David Rockefeller
Honorary Chairman

European Council on Foreign Relations - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Council_on_Foreign_Relations
(note the help from Soros to start ECFR)

tiny sample of Soros groups...
Open Society Institute - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Society_Institute
Other Soros Foundations:
Open Society Initiative for Eastern Africa
Open Society Foundation for South Africa
Open Society Initiative for Southern Africa
Open Society Initiative for West Africa
Open Society Afghanistan
Soros Foundation–Kazakhstan
Soros Foundation–Kyrgyzstan
Tifa Foundation Indonesia
Open Society Forum–Mongolia
Foundation Open Society Institute–Pakistan
Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation–Tajikistan
Open Society Foundation for Albania
Open Society Foundations–Armenia
Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation–Azerbaijan
Open Society European Policy Institute
Open Society Fund–Bosnia and Herzegovina
Open Society Institute–Sofia
Open Society Fund–Prague
Open Estonia Foundation
Open Society Institute–Paris
Open Society Georgia Foundation
Open Society Institute–Budapest
Kosovo Foundation for Open Society
Soros Foundation–Latvia
Foundation Open Society Institute–Macedonia
Soros Foundation–Moldova
Foundation Open Society Institute–Representative Office Montenegro

... this is, of course, only a small sample.


4 posted on 10/26/2012 12:23:19 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I remember General Dempsey blaming not only an obscure video, but an even more obscure pastor who “liked” the video, and blaming him (Terry Jones) for the murder of Ty Woods.

“Top U.S. military officer (Dempsey) calls pastor (Terry Jones) over anti-Islam film”

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/top-u-military-officer-calls-pastor-over-film-190209814.html

What a WEASEL, General Dempsey! Dempsey was in the room watching the whole terrorist attack unfold. He probably watched and did nothing while Ty Woods was murdered. Then he later blames an obscure guy who liked an obscure video.

Dempsey is a Lying Sack of Excrement.


5 posted on 10/26/2012 12:29:16 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0BAMA CHOSE to watch a MUSLIM SNUFF FILM rather than a HEROIC AMERICAN RESCUE FILM)
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To: Graewoulf

The gun running operation is quite public on the internet though Hillary and Panetta try to avoid talking about it - it’s always been a very poorly kept secret.

After all, the U.S. admitted helping the Libyan rebels.

Nothing to hide there.

The failure to order the rescue is the dereliction of duty that is exposed on the internet but avoided by the snews media.

There’s just no reason to “wait and see”, an administration that did it’s duty would initiate efforts to save the staff. Every time, there’s no valid excuse.

Determining their motivation for such a gross dereliction of duty is what will lead to finding out about the serious wrongdoing, whatever that is.

The refusal to bring security to standard recommended levels all year is a telltale sign to me.

The Congressional testimony showed the professional security officers utterly baffled as to the denial of their requests.

Their testimony, IMHO, shows that they did not know the real plot.


6 posted on 10/26/2012 12:33:26 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

” - - - The refusal to bring security to standard recommended levels all year is a telltale sign to me.”

That is the most solid observation about Benghazi.

As yet, it cannot reconciled to anything yet proposed by the Obama Regime.

BTW, what if Obama was trading small arms in exchange for some of the missing Libyan Missiles?

If that is true, then the 4 murdered Americans in Benghazi could have been killed with arms and ammunition supplied to them by “Fast and Furious” Obama.


7 posted on 10/26/2012 12:49:20 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: PieterCasparzen

I don’t have enough tin foil around for this post


8 posted on 10/26/2012 1:04:39 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Graewoulf

No need, there’s funding for the Arab spring projects since they are official and even public. Everyone knows the weapons are going to Syria, Russia is bothered by this and is solidifying their defense of Syria. The U.S. operations are public knowledge, though the U.S. government officially keeps out of the Syrian “revolution”. This way the U.S. and Russia don’t have to be officially, public irate with each other and just let their proxies fight it out. I just don’t see much with arms, Syria, Russia or Iran going on there.

The theory of a Soros-backed October surprise for the election is the most plausible to me at this point.

A) Soros has a history of spending billions on political activism around the world; it would fit his pattern, cost him very little and be very easy for his network.

B) He was instrumental in the 2004 Gore campaign; he has an admitted serious interest in American politics

C) Much of this administration has deep connections to NGOs in general and Soros network in particular. Hillary and Soros have great mutual respect for each other, and the Obama administration has appeared to be in lock-step with the Arab spring, which Soros is very much in line with. The Soros network has been very helpful in partnering with the U.S. government, so he could communicate with the highest levels of the administration as necessary.

D) Soros would have had the sense to start planning well over a year ago and he is thoroughly connected with not only the U.S. government but also the “rebels”; his network is a big part of the Arab spring.

E) Only simple messages would need to be relayed: to the U.S. government politicians, just clear out security, and should something happen, just wait and all will work out well. To the rebels, I’ll get security cleared out and get the Ambassador there on 9/11, just grab him alive, do the hostage routine, and agree to a release prior to the election after allowing Obama to be the hero. It would be very simple, not involve anyone in the administration very much and the rebels would scatter when the operation was complete. I see it all part of Obama’s walking the tightrope, holding back and messing up America while trying to appear as much as possible to Americans like he is really trying to help America, and letting the muslim world have free rein as much as he can as pResident. Not very difficult, does not require much coordination or even communication, just doubletalk and a complicit news media.


9 posted on 10/26/2012 1:28:51 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Nifster

Just curious, what’s the craziest part ?


10 posted on 10/26/2012 1:32:42 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

a lot to digest

unfortunately, when it comes to places like Syria

a table produced by some software like the “Abel Danger” program (either hidden or abandoned by the DOD)

would help “connect the dots” as to who in all you referenced is actually envolved

and missing from what you did reference

are dozens of Saudi funded foundations operating in the U.S. and connecting directly to Saudi government funding or other international Saudi funded foundations, and all of them active and influential in U.S. Middle East policy circles, in and out of government (the report on Iraq from the committe chaired by James Baker read as if it was written in Riyad and prioritized the claim that Israel was responsible for most of the turmoil in the Middle East);

when the fact is that a major part of the turmoil in the Middle East is the ramped up and ongoing global proxy war for sumpremacy in Islam between the radical fundamentalist Shia theocrats in Iran and those just like them allied with or supported by them against the just as radical fundamentalist Wahabi-Saudis and those allied with or funded by them

and the further fact is that whatever the soros funded and other funded NGOs think they are and have been doing with regard to Syria they are, on the ground and in terms of the future prospects there, in second place to the Wahabi-Saudis and the Muslim Brotherhood

the Marxists and Liberals are playing with fire - against western civilization, making allies of convenience with Middle East interests, Islamists and otherwise, and ignoring that their temporary symbiosis is working both ways and culturally working against ALL western value systems

as usual, Marxists especially are traitors to “native” interests of their own people, because their work must tear down the values NOT set my Marxist/Socialist/Progressive dialectics in order to build something in its place, and in the tyranny of Communism they can proceed without opponents, but in democratic societies the tear-down process is not ignored by others seeking to build on the cultural rubble and there - in Europe especially and more so than the U.S., the Islamist agenda is winning

I would suggest you do more research, like from Memri and others, and add the Middle East funded components to your list of NGOs, foundations and the like that are as much inside the “Arab Spring”, Syria and elsewhere as any Western interests.


11 posted on 10/26/2012 1:35:35 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: PieterCasparzen

Why is the US State Department donating what could be up to a million dollars to the New America Foundation?

US tax dollars?

Saving for further reading...thank you.


12 posted on 10/26/2012 2:03:08 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: Nifster

These are facts that you mock, with a theory attached to the facts. There are influential mega wealthy powers who have crafted a global society of like minded mega wealthy, who naturally fund and reward and influence the founding institutions of the USA, and reward the players who advance their interests for them.

Is that so hard for you to imagine, as you sit there in the ashes of your non-existent argument to the contrary of this column.

I mean, why comment? Maybe you could pen a vanity exemplary of your own superior knowledge and evidence of how much tin is in this foil.


13 posted on 10/26/2012 2:25:12 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: RitaOK

Liberty Lobby and the Spotlight got old a long time ago


14 posted on 10/26/2012 5:32:27 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

“Liberty lobby” and “Spotlight” is the best you can do?

THIS serves as your tomb of evidence, or are these mouth breather mutterings meant to serve as your vanity post?

Figures. I think we get it. This is your schlick to replace having nothing.


15 posted on 10/26/2012 5:51:51 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: RitaOK

Look you conspiracy whacks have been throwing nonsense out for years. Here’s what I KNOW to be true: A) Four murdered in Libya B) The WH situation room had real time infor and video C) CIA denies ordering anyone to stand down D)Insiders have released enpugh info that it is likely to point to either Tapper or the Pres as to that order D) The administration lied about this and continues t5o lie about it.

I don’t need to associate ayone or anything else with this muderous assault by the ROP.

So take a chill pill and quit trying to tie everything back to the CFR and other boogeymen.

Vanity post???? Not hardly. I grew tired of the conspiracy theories somewhere back in the early 70s.

The ONLY thing of importance at this juncture is that we get O OUT of the WH and elect as many conservatives as possible.

No go and finish prepping for 1999


16 posted on 10/26/2012 5:57:35 PM PDT by Nifster
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