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To: Buckeye McFrog

Again, he was only correct about the NUMBER who will vote for O no matter what.

That’s why HE said he didn’t say it right. That’s why RYAN said he was inarticulate.

FACTS: Obama will get millions of votes from liberal rich and middle class people who earn good incomes and who pay federal taxes and are not dependent on the government dole.

FACT: Romney will get millions of votes from working poor and lower middle class people who don’t happen to earn enough to owe federal income taxes and who are as self sufficient as they are able to be under the circumstances. Imagine a conservative man or woman who is poor because of unemployment and will blame Obama and vote for Romney. As just one example. There are millions of various examples of Romney voters who YOU say are voting for Obama, because of your allegiance to a comment that was admittedly SKEWED and did not reflect reality or what the man meant to convey.

You can cling to your dream world that the 47% comment was sacred, and you can blow off the truth every day for the rest of your life. That will not change the facts that the comment was skewed and the commenter himself, and his running mate, had the good graces and good sense to say so.


41 posted on 11/02/2012 6:55:20 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". (Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette; Buckeye McFrog

The discussion of the 47% was dead on, and so is Buckeye McFrog. It was politically damaging but the comment was made to address an attendees question about winning over voters. Romney correctly said there is a baked in percentage of people who like the free stuff, so his message of cutting free stuff is going not going to work with them. Where he mangled the statement politically and in reality is that is it not a straight up correlation. EVERY person with government benefits is not someone who want to be. Every person with above average income is not necessarily against it.

In 2008 surveys (Rasumussen, I believe), when broke down by recipients vs productive people, it was a mirror image. I forget the exact percentage, but of the people that pay taxes, it was either 80/20 or 70/30 support for Republicans, and in the ‘taker’ class, it was the exact opposite. Almost to the percentage.

Romney and Ryan backed off it politically because it was damaging in September. Romney was incorrect to state 100% correlation in his statement, but he was correct in princple.


54 posted on 11/02/2012 7:08:12 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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