[hopespringseternal]

Before I hit the sack, there are efforts by groups both left and right promoting secession.

That is why it is stupid to frame this as a military confrontation. There are benefits to both sides.

Trying to hold together these two unequal parts will ultimately cause more violence.

The biggest downside is that the U.S.A. has held Russia and China in check for seventy years. If that is taken out of the picture it will suck to be their neighbors. And that will have consequences for us as well. But that is coming sooner or later as well. It is already starting with the automatic budget cuts in January.

[jjsheridan5]

That is why it is stupid to frame this as a military confrontation. There are benefits to both sides.

Their underlying beliefs are centered around hatred and revenge. They are not looking for benefits. They want to destroy and humiliate. You are looking at this like a rational person, and are making the mistake in assuming that they are, as well. They believe that America (especially white America) is evil. They would never tolerate any kind of split. This is why you can never win an argument with a leftist. They don't care about economic theories, or any kind of principled discussion. Their passion lies in scathing contempt for those that believe in the ideals of this country.