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1 posted on 11/07/2012 8:14:39 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

You nailed it. I’m writing an article on these very numbers. We lost because most conservatives didn’t vote. They stayed home.

Doug Brady came to similar conclusions: http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/11/its-the-turnout-stupid.html

But the way I see it, this is our route for a comeback in 2014 and 2016. We have everything we need to save the USA.

Except, that is, for a conservative party to bring the voters home to America.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 8:21:02 PM PST by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can you say “Fraud”?


3 posted on 11/07/2012 8:21:42 PM PST by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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imo, and i’ve said this for a while, a lot of people did not want to vote for obama (except for the liberal elites and the welfare citizens).....people wanted to vote for someone else.....i really don’t think Romney gave them a good enough reason to vote for that someone else...

if Romney had been able to do from July through election day what he did from the first debate to election day there might have been a different outcome...

i also think there were a lot of stories that were never pushed by Romney (closing down Bain and flying 30 employees to NY to search for a colleagues missing daughter...paying for 7000 pints of milk for a VA hospital in MA out of his pocket) and were never broadcast nationally that would’ve helped his cause “connecting” with people....Romney could not tell the story but his surrogates could’ve gotten others to tell it...


4 posted on 11/07/2012 8:22:57 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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The problem is , the turnout was record high, the numbers do not add up.

Something is rotten.

5 posted on 11/07/2012 8:24:02 PM PST by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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I have friends on the ground in Ohio and Virginia who say the turnout was much greater in their towns than in 2008. It does make me wonder a lot about fraud.....


6 posted on 11/07/2012 8:24:26 PM PST by RedMominBlueState
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To: SeekAndFind
I think Mormonism had something to with it.

Anecdotally I talked to two conservative Catholics and that was a reason they wouldn't vote for him.

8 posted on 11/07/2012 8:25:56 PM PST by DallasBiff
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It was individual dem vote fraud, and more significantly, dem fraud by way of voting machine manipulation. This election was stolen just like in any other dictatorship-3rd world banana republic hell hole. It’s over. They know how to manipulate the voters, and the votes, and just enough so it is not blatant. They will save that for later. You know, like when the other Hussein used to get 100 percent of the Iraqi vote.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 8:28:17 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (Dems to Amerika : "All ur votes belong to us.")
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I thought i read several times or saw it McCain won the popular vote.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 8:29:05 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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I would like to propose a different theory.

Perhaps the evangelical Christians decided that they could not vote for a ticket consisting of a Mormon and a Catholic.

I hope that is incorrrect but if it is true I would personally like to thank them ever so much for giving us 4 more years of unfettered tyranny because of their religious predjudices.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 8:31:18 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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In fact, I can see at least 2 Million of them staying home this year compared to 2008 based on the above numbers.

Did two million people stay home, or did two million people simply refuse to vote for a liberal republican and skip that section of the ballot? That would explain the observed lines at polling places as well as the less than expected results. It would be interesting to see an analysis of the down-ticket voter turn out as compared to the top of the ticket.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 8:31:48 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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The low vote count was something I noticed on election night even before the election was called for Obama.

Yes, its clear that many of the Republican voters stayed home.

Proportionally, Obama lost a lot more voters than the Republican candidate from 2008 but not enough to entirely change the outcome.

It’s all very disturbing and I don’t know what to make of it.

There was a core group of Republican voters who were VERY motivated (you can see them in the early-morning election day turnout and relatively good GOP early voting result). Yet at the same time, there were clearly some who didn’t vote at all.

It’s all very depressing. The Democratic Party has long had Blacks in their pocket, but now Latinos as well, and as long as these groups continue to vote along ethnic lines it makes electing a Republican president in the future much, much harder.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 8:32:03 PM PST by beagleone
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I talked to a Gary Johnson voter today.....:(


19 posted on 11/07/2012 8:36:30 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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The counts of votes haven't finished yet. Only 69% of CA has been recorded. They are still counting all over the country. There are literally millions of votes that will be added to these totals.

Yes the vote total appears to be down, but mainly for Obama. I predict that Romney will exceed McCain's total in 2008, i.e., 59 million.

20 posted on 11/07/2012 8:36:30 PM PST by kabar
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Not all the votes have been counted. Just click on say, CO, MT or ID (then there's overseas ballots- do they still have time to come in?):

https://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results

Hundreds of thousands or millions of votes to come in soon?

21 posted on 11/07/2012 8:37:07 PM PST by PghBaldy
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Yes. It’s good to see the numbers laid out like that. It’s not as if Obama gained traction and beat out Romney. Obama lost a lot of his base. But so did Romney. They just stayed home.

The only thing I’m not sure of is who it was that decided to stay home. Values voters? Paulbots? Evangelicals? I suspect that Evangelicals were probably the largest contingent who simply refused to vote for Romney, but it would be interesting to get at least an approximate count.

In any case, Romney was a lousy candidate, and the figures prove it.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 8:40:12 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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How many fewer people voted in the storm-hit areas? If there wasn’t a fall-off of more than 3 or 4 million votes cast in those states, I suspect some fraud that took away Romney votes instead of what we are most often concerned about — adding democrat votes. I’m not a conspiracist, but the way things are going in this country, and with a thug as the attorney general, I am legitimately concerned that there was some of that.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 8:43:56 PM PST by line drive to right
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It would be interesting to research obituaries since November 2008, because according to the pundits the Republican Party only appeals to old white guys. A high mortality rate of that demographic might explain the lower Republican voting numbers in 2012. Obviously the demographics of the other party are multiplying at record numbers. It’s just simple math that says it will get more difficult each election as the profile of one party decreases and the profile of the other party increases.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 8:44:09 PM PST by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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The GOTV in Colorado was NOT impressive, though I DID get harrassed by 500 robo-calls. Robocalling is simply stupid. It will net you 100,000 votes nationally, max. Hardly anyone walked precincts here, and while I did not see very many Obama signs compared to 2008, McCain/PALIN DEFINITELY had more signs in 2008 than Romney in 2912.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 8:46:43 PM PST by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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What would the numbers have been like if Sandy wasn’t around...how many people didn’t vote because of Sandy?


30 posted on 11/07/2012 8:48:42 PM PST by muwarriors92
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BS - turnout everywhere was much higher than reported.

Anyone think that early voting and absentee ballots may have stuffed the ballot boxes for Dems and lost the Repub ballots? Or maybe Repub votes fraudently counted as Dem?

Nah, couldn’t possibly happen, could it?
/S


46 posted on 11/07/2012 9:08:40 PM PST by RebelTex
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