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To: floridafree
Lets dissolve the Union...let the Blue States create the Socialist Utopia they want and we in the Red States can build our Capitalist Free Enterprise System for Dreamers and Doers. Can you imagine the Economic Engine that would be unleashed without the shackles of the massive fed government and liberals? They would fall apart and we would thrive. We do not need or want them.

Think East Germany versus West Germany, North Korea versus South Korea.

150 posted on 11/10/2012 5:51:26 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (Revolutions are not born out of success, they are born out of despair)
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To: JustaCowgirl; oneprolifewoman
150 posted on Sat Nov 10 2012 07:51:26 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by JustaCowgirl: “Think East Germany versus West Germany, North Korea versus South Korea.”

I understand the point about North vs South Korea, but that's too extreme. It took a terrible war and the backing of Mao to let the Kim dynasty create its nightmare of centralized planning, and that won't happen in America in just a few years. It took decades for the Kim dynasty to do its damage with much more control than any American president.

A better parallel might be Western Europe by the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s versus the United States. One set of governments was reaping the consequences of a generation of socialism while the United States was turning away from socialism. We are now seeing the collapse of the economy of Greece and several other nations are close to the brink.

However, let's back off from talk about secession of Texas or anyplace else. It might be fun to talk about for some people, but it's not going to happen, especially with President Obama who is a student of Lincoln and the Civil War. I could imagine some liberal Democratic president down the road agreeing to a peaceful withdrawal by some of the conservative states that cause him problems, but it will not be Obama doing that.

We need to focus our energies on things that actually can work, and that means preparing to repeat in 2014 what happened in the 2010 elections, hopefully showing to the Republican Party that conservative policies win elections while RINO policies lose.

In theory, peaceful secession is merely a discussion of politics. But as for advocating violent overthrow of the government — I haven't seen that here yet, but if someone starts to advocate it, that needs to be shut down immediately. Those of us who care about original intent of the Constitution need to pay careful attention to the definition of treason.

Again, I am not accusing anyone of advocating the violent overthrow of the government. What I **AM** saying is that what we write is being watched. Advocating secession is a waste of time we could be using to do something productive, but I hope everyone advocating that realizes they need to steer very clear of things that are legally defined as treason.

It's already been asked on this thread how conservatives will communicate with each other in a country that bans things like Free Republic. All it would take would be a few trolls and disruptors to advocate violent revolution to give federal agents entirely valid constitutional grounds to investigate a lot of people on this website.

Let's not make that kind of mistake.

190 posted on 11/23/2012 7:55:34 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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