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To: DiogenesLamp
A simple test of Obammy's citizenship would be to determine where his loyalties lie, before, during and after being elected.

The founders were worried that someone with loyalties to another country or to another system of government could not be trusted with the Constitution and would work to dismantle it.

Nothing to worry about here, right? Anyone who mistrusts our dear leader should be put in chains and hung in a boxcar.

53 posted on 11/14/2012 9:14:55 AM PST by Eastbound (3-7-77)
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To: Eastbound
"A simple test of Obammy's citizenship would be to determine where his loyalties lie, before, during and after being elected.

The founders were worried that someone with loyalties to another country or to another system of government could not be trusted with the Constitution and would work to dismantle it.

Nothing to worry about here, right? "

Bingo!

The founders NEVER envisioned a President and Commander in Chief, born with foreign citizenship (post grandfather clause), to be eligible.

Even the modern day State Department rules discusses the problems associated with dual citizenship:

7 FAM 081: U.S. Policy on Dual Nationality:

(e)While recognizing the existence of dual nationality, the U.S. Government does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Dual nationality may hamper efforts by the U.S. Government to provide diplomatic and consular protection to individuals overseas. When a U.S. citizen is in the other country of their dual nationality, that country has a predominant claim on the person.

...

the U.S. Supreme Court has stated that dual nationality is a "status long recognized in the law" and that "a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both." See Kawakita v. United States, 343 U.S. 717 (1952).

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86563.pdf

And this...

US State Department Services Dual Nationality

... The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance.

However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there...

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

So, "HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?"

80 posted on 11/14/2012 12:49:28 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Eastbound

I have just made a posting that the children of the current president of Egypt were born in the USA during the time the father was a professor at colleges here. I would be willing to bet that with a Muslim father and Muslim upbringing the children are Sharia adherents. Some claim these children are eligible for POTUSA because of being born in the USA. I strongly oppose that position as not at all in accord with the deliberations and expressions and wording of the Constitution.


108 posted on 11/14/2012 3:02:38 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Eastbound
I would seem to me current events will lead to replacement of our top military commanders. Replaced by whom will tell us a lot about the CIC’s loyalties. I'm hard pressed to imagine Oath keepers.
157 posted on 11/14/2012 9:08:36 PM PST by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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