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To: West Texas Chuck

WE cant secede. WE are ALL AMERICANS.

Too much collectivism for my mind to grasp. I am an individual not part of a collective. I guess that is what makes me truly American.

The Declaration makes a simple argument:
1. Humans have rights from the Creator
2. Governments exist to secure those rights (a debatable assertion but we’ll roll with it.)
3. When the government fails to secure those rights, we can ditch it and start our own government.
That’s pretty much all it says. If you thought that was true in 1776, when tax rates were 1% and there was no such thing as a the EPA or the FBI or the IRS, why is it not true now? Because we’re so much more free now? And, no, the Declaration did not say that the government is free to violate rights as long as people get to vote on it.
The Declaration establishes that there’s no such thing as treason, and a free government requires the assumption of just secession.
Thus the whole Revolution [of 1775–1783] turned upon, asserted, and, in theory, established, the right of each and every man, at his discretion, to release himself from the support of the government under which he had lived. And this principle was asserted, not as a right peculiar to themselves, or to that time, or as applicable only to the government then existing; but as a universal right of all men, at all times, and under all circumstances.

17 posted on 11/14/2012 4:39:53 PM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: all the best

“I am an individual not part of a collective.”

That can be read to mean you are unwilling to work collectively with other individuals. I did not write “collective”, a Marxist term. I wrote “collectively”, “adv. In a mass, or body; in a collected state; in the aggregate; unitedly; in a state of combination; as the citizens of a state collectively considered” (Webster’s 1828 Dictionary).

Another problem is that we keep letting the leftists steal the language.

65 posted on 11/14/2012 7:25:43 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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