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To: MrChips
1964? We won. You lost.

I'll see your "Bush push" and raise you "The Spot" (1989).

What do you mean our players were not students? Of course they were. It's true that none of them were taking graduate coursework in international relations, so none of them were my classmates, but I had classmates who knew team members.

Pat Hayden? Don't know of him. You're probably confusing him with Tom "We are all Vietcong" Hayden, who was a Wolverine.

Probation? A lot of schools have gotten away with much more skulduggery.

Fight on!
Deconstruct the Domers!

38 posted on 11/23/2012 10:04:54 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Fight on!)
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To: Fiji Hill
You did not "win" in 1964. Officiating lost, as did whatever good reputation the Colosseum might have had for sportsmanship.

You don't know who Pat Hayden is? What?! Here, from Wikipedia, just for you . . . Patrick Capper "Pat" Haden (born January 23, 1953) is the athletic director at the University of Southern California. He played quarterback for the USC Trojans before playing professionally in the NFL for the Los Angeles Rams from 1976 to 1981. He is a Rhodes Scholar, was a practicing attorney from 1982 to 1987, and was a partner at Riordan, Lewis & Haden, a private equity firm, from 1987 to 2010. He is also known for his work as a former sportscaster, beginning with CBS Sports in 1982, and ending his career in that field as a color commentator for NBC Sports Notre Dame football coverage. Very fair coverage, I might add, which is why I respect him.

And you respond to a recod level (other than SMU) of sanctions and probabtions by blaming other schools? The "everybody else does it" excuse? Weak. Very weak. Bu, there's hope. Keep Hayden around for awhile and he just might elevate the school from the level of corruption in which to which it has been accustomed. I hope he succeeds in that . . . but he'll probably have to do it by getting rid of Kiffin.

Good luck tomorrow. Keep those footballs inflated. Go Irish!

40 posted on 11/23/2012 3:57:18 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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