[Cronos]

The definition for the word, civilized, originates from describing a person or culture that has abandoned a nomadic culture to live in relatively permanent communities described as cities, towns, and villages -- then by that definition the Pueblo indians and Aztecs were civilized.

Not that i'm disagreeing with you, mind

As you correctly point out, the other definition is relative.

[WhiskeyX]

Yes, by that definition there were many Amerindian cultures that were civilized.

One of the reasons many amerindian cultures were deemed to be uncivilized beyond just the non-Christian religions was Amerindian attitudes towards such subjects as torture, the genocide of enemies, and cannibalism.