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The report said that future governments may have to consider stepping into people's finances more to help them manage their money,

coming soon to a country near you..

1 posted on 11/22/2012 4:10:06 AM PST by Cronos
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coming soon to a country near you..

Definitely! If they start taking 5 percent of every paycheck you take home from 16 until retirement, it could build to a huge amount OR the government will have that much more to tax on people. The only thing is I think it should be voluntary (even SS), BUT come retirement, if you don’t have enough to live on, the government should not step in. That really should be the program.


2 posted on 11/22/2012 4:13:14 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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So, since people are stupidly using their money to buy things like food, and to pay for living expenses instead of setting aside money for later, we (the government) are going to take that decision away from them (regardless of whether they can afford it or not). That way, they can live in a state of greater penury for a longer period of time.


3 posted on 11/22/2012 4:14:58 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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Ok now... At what point will the Government say: “Hey! There’s a huge pot o’money over there. Those people obviously don’t know how to spend it wisely, let’s show them how to do it.

Sorry to be so cynical, but with all of the evidence around me everyday, it’s hard not to be sometimes.


4 posted on 11/22/2012 4:19:37 AM PST by The Working Man
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It would seem the average person in the so-called civilized world is slowly descending in ability to an infantile state, assisted by the nanny state, to the point where the government will have to send a minder by to check if they’ve tied their shoes and brushed their teeth.


5 posted on 11/22/2012 4:33:53 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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Most people saved their money in banks with CD’s and Money markets.

There is no way in hell that anyone can save enough money to retire on when the banks are paying less than 1% interest.

Retirement funds that were relying on interest and investments to keep them alive are dying on the vine.

How do you save money when it costs $150,000 dollars to send a kid to college, pay that kids health insurance, pay your own and then get taxed to death.

The future of retirements looks bad, but Obamacare has th answer.

When you reach 70 they will hand you the blue pill if you get sick, you will be judged unworthy of further care. You will not need a lot of retirement money, unless you are healthy enough to make it on your own to the later years.


6 posted on 11/22/2012 4:47:58 AM PST by Venturer
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For grins, I tuned in to NPR - yeah, I know - and heard the objective journalists (scare quotes around “objective” are invisible, but they’re there) talking about Social Security being a mandatory savings plan for everyone’s retirement. Yeah, that’s one way of looking at it - but the only trouble is, it’s mandatory investing in Bernie Madoff. It is invested in “safe government bonds” - which means that the same entity which forced you to invest in their scheme, borrowed the money from you. They borrowed the money, and if you look at the government’s other debt, you will know they spent it. Nothing wrong with that, if in fact they invested it in infrastructure which will return the money with interest. But all you need to do is look at the way the Obama Economy (does NOT) works to know that that ain’t happening. Social Security has been a cash flow cash cow, but that cash flow is on the cusp of turn strongly negative. And where is the money gonna come from to make up the negative cash flow to keep the SS checks going out - China?

7 posted on 11/22/2012 5:34:48 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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"... by forcing them to save into a pension ..."

What a concept! Maybe it should be tax free until withdrawn at retirement. Wait, we have something like that here in the USA, called 401K and IRA - the problem with them is they are VOLUNTARY programs. Maybe we should abolish Social Security and raise the the tax free contribution limit to 10% as a motivation to save for your own retirement.

Then, while were're at it, eliminate Medicare and 0bamacare and raise the tax deduction allowance on medical costs to allow citizens to privately purchase the health coverage of THEIR CHOICE.

We could go on and on about allowing Americans to have FREEDOM OF CHOICE but wait, that's been done already by a bunch of old SLAVE OWNERS over 200 years ago. It's now pretty much down to only women having a FREEDOM OF CHOICE on whether or not to kill their babies.

Sorry FRiends, for slipping into RANT mode on this THANKSGIVING DAY.

11 posted on 11/22/2012 6:26:47 AM PST by shove_it ( No representation without taxation.)
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We need to think of innovative ideas that will help people to save for the future

Here's an idea. Cut these government employees and put the money back in the people's pockets.

12 posted on 11/22/2012 6:35:03 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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FORCE = tool of the totalitarian

Life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians.


13 posted on 11/22/2012 6:36:11 AM PST by PGalt
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