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Highest-ever HIV diagnoses in gay men (UK)
bbc ^ | 11.30.2012 | James Gallagher

Posted on 11/30/2012 12:40:50 PM PST by Morgana

The number of gay and bisexual men being diagnosed with HIV in the UK reached an "all-time high" in 2011, according to the Health Protection Agency (HPA).

It said there had been a "worrying" trend since 2007, with more and more new cases each year.

Nearly half of the 6,280 people diagnosed last year were men who had sex with other men (MSM).

Overall, one in 20 MSM are infected with HIV.

Of those diagnosed in 2011, nearly two-thirds had not been to a sexual health clinic in the previous three years.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: aids; england; hiv; homosexualagenda; riskybehavior; uk

1 posted on 11/30/2012 12:40:53 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Yes, and schools are teaching the children that this is the new normal. Great!


2 posted on 11/30/2012 12:48:25 PM PST by heylady (“Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.”( Deb))
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To: Morgana

Don’t you think Morgana could have tied all these articles into one so we don;t have to read the same stas over and over again.


3 posted on 11/30/2012 12:48:25 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Morgana

Forgive me if I have no sympathy for anyone contracting this disease by cause of sexually deviant behaviors. The only thing that’s a shame is that honest taxpayers will get stuck footing the bill for these perverts acts of depravity.


4 posted on 11/30/2012 12:51:03 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Morgana

Increase in “Asian” immigrants in Briton?


5 posted on 11/30/2012 12:51:28 PM PST by Obadiah (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: Resolute Conservative

These are not the same stats and these are from different countries.

I found these by accident. In truth it scares me that the rates would pop up in different places at once. HIV/AIDS is only a level 2 virus. So for it to spread like this is a bit strange. Yes I know homosexuals have sex like there is no tomorrow but this is still a little fast for the virus to spread. If the stats are true that is.


6 posted on 11/30/2012 12:54:16 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Obadiah

Middle Eastern, and Regions of Africa are known as “Asian” in the UK.


7 posted on 11/30/2012 12:54:29 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Morgana

What is your fixation with HIV?


8 posted on 11/30/2012 12:54:32 PM PST by Gatn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: rockinqsranch

Correct.


9 posted on 11/30/2012 12:55:35 PM PST by Obadiah (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: Morgana

It might be the population thinner that others have suggested...


10 posted on 11/30/2012 12:56:36 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: heylady

Probably has to do with a lack of fear of getting the disease, since there are effective treatments available which are, in great brittian, free.

Free healthcare = poor health.... go figure.


11 posted on 11/30/2012 12:58:44 PM PST by freedomfirst76
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To: Morgana

as my moma used to say,”The lord works in mysterious ways”


12 posted on 11/30/2012 12:59:27 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

“What is your fixation with HIV?”

well for one read what MeganC said in post 4

she is correct we will all have to pay for it.

second that will be our blood supply at the blood bank that will be tainted.


13 posted on 11/30/2012 1:00:58 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

I can’t understand why this segment of the population is catching HIV in such high numbers.

No ideal at all.

I’m completely stumped.

Has to be something to this!


14 posted on 11/30/2012 1:08:45 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

I know why!

Bush’s Fault


15 posted on 11/30/2012 1:11:30 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

sexual health clinic?


16 posted on 11/30/2012 1:11:50 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Morgana

What’s with all the HIV articles posted all of a sudden?


17 posted on 11/30/2012 1:18:53 PM PST by GnL
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To: GnL

See post 6.

something strange is going on.


18 posted on 11/30/2012 1:20:19 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

Did I miss something, is it HIV Day or what? Why all the articles on the subject all of the sudden?


19 posted on 11/30/2012 1:26:40 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman; Chode; GeronL

I found these by accident!!!

It feels like 1980 all over again....and dawg if I did not find another article!!!


20 posted on 11/30/2012 1:31:07 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

It’s not really a mystery, to me at least, when you have an understanding that, within the gay community, there are two sub-groups called “bugs” and “bug-catchers”.

“Bugs” are HIV-positive men who are actively trying to spread AIDS and the “bug-catchers” are actively trying to catch it, to gain status.

Yes, it’s messed up thinking.


21 posted on 11/30/2012 1:39:10 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Obadiah
Increase in “Asian” immigrants in Briton?

In Britain, "Asian" is how they refer to Pakastani immigrants, of which, in Britain, there are many.

22 posted on 11/30/2012 1:42:54 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Morgana

“It feels like 1980 all over again....”

Noooooo, not Rock Hudson! He was such a dreamboat!


23 posted on 11/30/2012 1:45:56 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Morgana

Here’s your explanation:

“World AIDS Day, observed on 1 December every year, is dedicated to raising awareness of the AIDS pandemic ...”

Mystery solved.


24 posted on 11/30/2012 1:47:25 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Morgana
Lunacy. By the way, NO virus can differentiate between male and female victims. All are susceptible. HIV is a harmless 9 kilo base passenger retrovirus. NO HIV test actually measures the presence of live HIV retrovirus particles because the tests are antibody-specific, not antigen-specific. HIV does NOT cause an 'Acquired' (you people need to understand exactly what that word means!) Immune Deficiency 'Syndrome of 30 separate disease states; and AIDs is NOT sexually transmitted.

1983 AIDS had become big enough in the American and European press to pique the interest of the influential infectious disease establishment, particularly the cancer virus hunters.

At that time the virus hunters had been engaged for over a decade in president NixonÂ’s War on Cancer with unsuccessful attempts to find a human cancer virus (Duesberg 1996b; Fujimura 1996; de Harven 1999).

Now they were looking for new diseases that could be attributed to viruses (Duesberg 1987). Perhaps AIDS could at last yield clinically relevant lymphoma-, Kaposi’s sar- coma- or immunodeficiency-viruses (Duesberg 1996b). Indeed, virus hunters from the CDC were the first to alert the public that AIDS may be “transmissible” (Francis et al 1983).

A similar alert came from a French virus team, which had discovered a retrovirus in a homosexual man at risk for AIDS, which a year later became the accepted cause of AIDS (Barre-Sinoussi et al 1983).

News, that the cause of AIDS may be a virus, and thus transmissible to the general population, immediately set off a national panic that opened the doors for new surveillance programs by the CDC and predictably set off a race among virus hunters for the AIDS virus (Shilts 1987).

According to an international press conference called by the US Secretary of Health and Human Services in Washington DC on 23 April 1984, that race was won by government researchers from the NIH who had found in some AIDS patients antibodies against a new retrovirus closely related to a hypothetical human leukemia virus (Altman 1984).

The virus was introduced as fortunate fallout of the failed War on Cancer. The next day the new virus was already termed, the “AIDS virus”, by the New York Times (Altman 1984). Overnight nearly all AIDS researchers dropped the lifestyle-AIDS hypothesis to work on the new “AIDS virus”, which was already endorsed by the US government.

The CDC’s director of the Task retrovirologists officially sealed the seemingly tight package of a new “AIDS virus” and the CDC’s assumption that immunodeficiency was the common denominator of the 26 AIDS-defining diseases (table 1) by naming it, Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) (Coffin et al 1986).

Even before the AIDS virus became the officially accep- ted cause of AIDS, the CDC had already made antibodies against the virus the only definitive criterion to diagnose any of the heterogeneous diseases as AIDS in 1985 (Cen- ters for Disease Control 1985, 1987, 1992).

Their unortho- dox decision to use antibodies against the virus (normally functioning as a vaccine), instead of the virus, for the diagnosis of AIDS was based on the flawed analogy with some bacterial pathogens. For example, syphilis bacteria can be pathogenic despite the presence of antibodies, e.g. the Wassermann test for syphilis (Brandt 1988).

But viruses are typically unable to enter cells in the presence of anti-viral antibodies – the basis for the effectiveness of Jennerian vaccines. Because of the CDC’s decision, AIDS is diagnosed worldwide if antibody against (!) HIV, rather than HIV, is detectable in a patient along with any of the CDC’s 26 diseases.

Since 1992 even low T-cell counts are diagnosed as a condition, termed “HIV/AIDS”, which is treatable with anti-HIV drugs provided it occurs in the presence of antibodies against HIV (Centers for Disease Control 1992), (see table 1, and § 4.2). 3.1 Discrepancies between the predictions of the virus-AIDS hypothesis and the facts.

Despite its spectacular birthday the HIV-AIDS hypothesis has remained entirely unproductive to this date: There is as yet no anti-HIV-AIDS vaccine, no effective prevention and not a single AIDS patient has ever been cured – the hallmarks of a flawed hypothesis. Indeed the hypothesis was born with several serious birth defects and has developed further defects since; most of these should have given pause to HIV-AIDS researchers to rethink and reconsider.

However, in the race to claim a share of the new viral cause for AIDS and of virus-based AIDS treat- ments, “The Trojan horse of emergency” (Szasz 2001) was saddled so quickly that there was little time and no interest to address these defects, not even the most fundamental ones (Weiss and Jaffe 1990; Cohen 1994; O’Brien 1997).

An analysis of the defects of the HIV-AIDS hypothesis based on its failure to predict AIDS facts is shown in table 4. Our analysis is based on the most recent and most authoritative case made for the HIV-AIDS hypothesis since 1984, namely the Durban Declaration that was published in Nature in 2000 and has been signed by “over 5,000 people, including Nobel prizewinners” (The Durban Declaration 2000). It can be seen in table 4 that the HIV-hypothesis fails to predict 17 specific facts of AIDS.

The most fundamental discrepancy between the HIV-AIDS hypothesis and the facts is the paradox, that a latent, non-cytopathic and immunologically neutralized retrovirus [a virus that is inherently not cytopathic (Duesberg 1987)], that is only present in less than 1 out of 500 susceptible T-cells and rarely expressed in a few of those, would cause a plethora of fatal diseases in sexually active, young men and women.

And, that the plethora of the diseases attributed to this virus would not show up for 5–10 years after infection (table 4). As a result of the many discrepancies between the HIV hypothesis and the facts, we conclude that HIV is not sufficient for AIDS, and is most compatible with being a passenger virus. Surprisingly our conclusion is supported by a survey of AIDS researchers conducted by the New York Times, shortly after the publication of the Durban Declaration.

At the 20th anniversary of AIDS, on 30 January 2001, the New York Times interviewed a dozen leading AIDS researchers for an article that turned into a list of questions, “The AIDS questions that linger” (Altman 2001a), similar to those asked by us in table 4: “In the 20 years since the first cases of AIDS were detected, scientists say they have learned more about this viral disease than any other, and few have dispu- ted the claim. … Despite the gains … experts say reviewing unanswered questions could prove useful as a measure of progress for AIDS and other diseases.

Such a list could fill a newspaper, and even then would create debate. (E.g.): How does H.I.V. subvert the immune system? . . . Why does AIDS predispose infec- ted persons to certain types of cancer and infections and not others? . . . Dr Anthony S Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said, ‘It is the rare person who gets up and strips himself of his personal agenda and articulates what we really do not know because by saying that they would diminish the impact of their own work, which is their agenda’.

(Regarding anti-HIV medications:) . . . the new drugs do not completely eliminate H.I.V. from the body, so the medicines, which can have dangerous side effects, will have to be taken for a lifetime and perhaps changed to combat resistance.

The treatments are now so complicated that it is difficult, expensive and time-consuming to answer basic and practical questions. What combinations of drugs should be started first and when? Why do side effects like unusual accumulations of fat in the abdomen and neck develop? . . . Anti-H.I.V. drugs suppress replication of the virus, which should give the functioning parts of the immune system a chance to eliminate re- maining virus.

That does not happen. ‘So something is bizarre about that, that we don’t understand’, Dr Fauci said. Is a vaccine possible? . . . many unanswered questions exist about whether and when one can be developed.” Thus HIV-AIDS researchers have not solved the discrepancies and paradoxes of the HIV-AIDS hypothesis, but still do not follow the scientific method of searching for alternative explanations (Costello 1995).

Since 19 years of HIV-AIDS research have failed to produce tangible benefits for AIDS patients and risk groups, and since there are no paradoxes in nature only flawed hypotheses, the scientific method calls for an alternative, testable hypothesis. Here we offer one such hypothesis.

Our hypothesis extends the early, and now abandoned “lifestyle” hypothesis (§ 2) and subsequent drug-AIDS hypotheses from us and others (Duesberg 1992; Duesberg and Rasnick 1998). “Historically, the first step in determining the cause of any disease has always been to find out if there is anything, apart from the disease itself, that sufferers have in common” (Cairns 1978).

However, the traditional search for the cause is only completed, if something that suf- ferers have in common can also be shown to cause the disease; in other words if Koch’s postulates can be ful- filled (Merriam-Webster 1965). This is true for viruses just as much as for drugs. Following this tradition, we try here to provide proof of principle for our drug and malnutrition hypothesis of AIDS – alias chemical AIDS. 4.1

The chemical-AIDS hypothesis and its predictions The chemical-AIDS hypothesis proposes that the AIDS epidemics of the US and Europe are caused by recreational drugs, alias lifestyle, and anti-HIV drugs (Duesberg.

1. Since HIV is “the sole cause of AIDS”, it must be abundant in AIDS patients based on “exactly the same criteria as for other viral diseases.” But, only antibodies against HIV are found in most patients (1–7)**. Therefore, “HIV infection is identified in blood by detecting antibodies, gene sequences, or viral isolation.”

But, HIV can only be “isolated” from rare, la- tently infected lymphocytes that have been cultured for weeks in vitro – away from the antibodies of the human host (8). Thus HIV behaves like a latent passenger virus.

2. Since HIV is “the sole cause of AIDS”, there is no AIDS in HIV-free people.

But, the AIDS literature has described at least 4621 HIV- free AIDS cases according to one survey – irrespective of, or in agreement with allowances made by the CDC for HIV-free AIDS cases (55).

3. The retrovirus HIV causes immunodeficiency by killing T-cells (1–3).

But, retroviruses do not kill cells because they depend on viable cells for the replication of their RNA from viral DNA integrated into cellular DNA (4, 25). Thus, T-cells infected in vitro thrive, and those patented to mass-produce HIV for the detection of HIV antibodies and diag- nosis of AIDS are immortal (9–15)!

4. Following “exactly the same criteria as for other viral disea- ses”, HIV causes AIDS by killing more T-cells than the body can replace. Thus T-cells or “CD4 lymphocytes . . . become depleted in people with AIDS”. But, even in patients dying from AIDS less than 1 in 500 of the T-cells “that become depleted” are ever infected by HIV (16–20, 54). This rate of infection is the hallmark of a latent passenger virus (21). 5. With an RNA of 9 kilobases, just like polio virus, HIV should be able to cause one specific disease, or no disease if it is a passenger (22).

But, HIV is said to be “the sole cause of AIDS”, or of 26 different immunodeficiency and non-immunodeficiency diseases, all of which also occur without HIV (table 2). Thus there is not one HIV-specific disease, which is the definition of a passenger virus!

6. All viruses are most pathogenic prior to anti-viral immunity. Therefore, preemptive immunization with Jennerian vaccines is used to protect against all viral diseases since 1798.

But, AIDS is observed – by definition – only after anti- HIV immunity is established, a positive HIV/AIDS test (23). Thus HIV cannot cause AIDS by “the same criteria” as conventional viruses.

7. HIV needs “5–10 years” from establishing antiviral immu- nity to cause AIDS.

But, HIV replicates in 1 day, generating over 100 new HIVs per cell (24, 25). Accordingly, HIV is immunogenic, i.e. biochemically most active, within weeks after infection (26, 27). Thus, based on conventional criteria “for other viral disea- ses”, HIV should also cause AIDS within weeks – if it could.

8. “Most people with HIV infection show signs of AIDS within 5–10 years” – the justification for prophylaxis of AIDS with the DNA chain terminator AZT (§ 4).

But, of “34⋅3 million . . . with HIV worldwide” only 1⋅4% [= 471,457 (obtained by substracting the WHO’s cumulative total of 1999 from that of 2000)] developed AIDS in 2000, and similarly low percentages prevailed in all previous years (28). Likewise, in 1985, only 1⋅2% of the 1 million US citizens with HIV developed AIDS (29, 30). Since an annual incidence of 1⋅2–1⋅4% of all 26 AIDS defining diseases combined is no more than the normal mortality in the US and Europe (life expectancy of 75 years), HIV must be a passenger virus.

9. A vaccine against HIV should (“is hoped” to) prevent AIDS – the reason why AIDS researchers try to develop an AIDS vaccine since 1984 (31).

But, despite enormous efforts there is no such vaccine to this day (31). Moreover, since AIDS occurs by definition only in the presence of natural antibodies against HIV (§ 3), and since natural antibodies are so effective that no HIV is detectable in AIDS patients (see No. 1), even the hopes for a vaccine are irrational.

10. HIV, like other viruses, survives by transmission from host to host, which is said to be mediated “through sexual con- tact”.

But, only 1 in 1000 unprotected sexual contacts transmits HIV (32–34), and only 1 of 275 US citizens is HIV-infec- ted (29, 30), (figure 1b). Therefore, an average un-infected US citizen needs 275,000 random “sexual contacts” to get infected and spread HIV – an unlikely basis for an epidemic!

11. “AIDS spreads by infection” of HIV.

But, contrary to the spread of AIDS, there is no “spread” of HIV in the US. In the US HIV infections have remained constant at 1 million from 1985 (29) until now (30), (see also The Durban Declaration and figure 1b). By contrast, AIDS has increased from 1981 until 1992 and has decli- ned ever since (figure 1a).

12. Many of the 3 million people who annually receive blood trans- fusions in the US for life-threatening diseases (51), should have developed AIDS from HIV-infected blood donors prior to the elimination of HIV from the blood supply in 1985.

But there was no increase in AIDS-defining diseases in HIV-positive transfusion recipients in the AIDS era (52), and no AIDS-defining KaposiÂ’s sarcoma has ever been observed in millions of transfusion recipients (53).

13. Doctors are at high risk to contract AIDS from patients, HIV researchers from virus preparations, wives of HIV-positive hemophiliacs from husbands, and prostitutes from clients – particularly since there is no HIV vaccine.

But, in the peer-reviewed literature there is not one doctor or nurse who has ever contracted AIDS (not just HIV) from the over 816,000 AIDS patients recorded in the US in 22 years (30). Not one of over ten thousand HIV researchers has con- tracted AIDS. Wives of hemophiliacs do not get AIDS (35). And there is no AIDS-epidemic in prostitutes (36–38). Thus AIDS is not contagious (39, 40).

14. Viral AIDS – like all viral/microbial epidemics in the past (41–43) – should spread randomly in a population.

But, in the US and Europe AIDS is restricted since 1981 to two main risk groups, intravenous drug users and male homosexual drug users (§ 1 and 4).

15. A viral AIDS epidemic should form a classical, bell-shaped chronological curve (41–43), rising exponentially via virus spread and declining exponentially via natural immunity, within months (see figure 3a).

But, AIDS has been increasing slowly since 1981 for 12 years and is now declining since 1993 (figure 1a), just like a lifestyle epidemic, as for example lung cancer from smoking (figure 3b).

16. AIDS should be a pediatric epidemic now, because HIV is transmitted “from mother to infant” at rates of 25–50% (44– 49), and because “34⋅3 million people worldwide” were already infected in 2000. To reduce the high maternal trans- mission rate HIV-antibody-positive pregnant mothers are treated with AZT for up to 6 months prior to birth (§ 4).

But, less than 1% of AIDS in the US and Europe is pediatric (30, 50). Thus HIV must be a passenger virus in new- borns.

17. “HIV recognizes no social, political or geographic borders” – just like all other viruses.

But, the presumably HIV-caused AIDS epidemics of Africa and of the US and Europe differ both clinically and epidemiologically (§ 1, table 2). The US/European epidemic is highly nonrandom, 80% male and restricted to abnormal risk groups, whereas the African epidemic is random.

25 posted on 11/30/2012 1:47:55 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Morgana

Nearly half of the 6,280 people diagnosed last year were men who had sex with other men (MSM). Overall, one in 20 MSM are infected with HIV.

File under “ You can’t fix stupid”!


26 posted on 11/30/2012 1:56:55 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Morgana

When you give civil rights to a disease, why should we be surprised?

Remember that Planned Parenthood pamphlet they give to kids, it tells them to go ahead and NOT tell their sex partners about their HIV if it makes them uncomfortable.


27 posted on 11/30/2012 1:57:04 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana

Oh stop the good news.


28 posted on 11/30/2012 1:59:20 PM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Morgana
A completely preventable disease with a well known cause -> no excuse!

29 posted on 11/30/2012 2:12:23 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: IbJensen; GeronL

A disease with rights is good news?

they are letting babies and the elderly die in the UK but these people will be allowed to live because they are “special”.

you call that good news?


30 posted on 11/30/2012 2:22:30 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

I think he might have been sarcastic.

Recent stories out of the UK say the UK withholds medical care from “sick” old peoples and babies. One story said more than 100,000 old people a year die from this denial of care.

Since AIDS has no cure, shouldn’t they also be denied that way?


31 posted on 11/30/2012 2:25:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL; IbJensen

Which is why more here should use the FReeper patent pending /sarc tag


32 posted on 11/30/2012 2:28:51 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

That is true!

They made (encouraged) me start using “vanity” and “satire” in my posts


33 posted on 11/30/2012 2:30:26 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana
Ungland...
34 posted on 11/30/2012 2:56:34 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Jonty30

I think that one turned out to be an urban legend — along the lines of the gerbil thing.


35 posted on 11/30/2012 3:32:29 PM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Bigg Red

I wish it were, but it is not. Within the homosexual community, it’s no longer really thought of as a disease, because modern treatments allow patients to live for thirty years or more with the disease.

You can find an entry on it in Wikipedia. I had copied a link, but that copy disappeared from my phone.


36 posted on 11/30/2012 4:00:47 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

It is no longer the death sentence it once was, but the side effects of the drug regimen aren’t pleasant. Like someone said, you can’t fix stupid.


37 posted on 11/30/2012 4:43:29 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

It is no longer the death sentence it once was but the drugs are damn expensive.

Meanwhile in England they are letting sick babies and the elderly die because of “cost issues” money will be spent to keep these people alive because people who have butt sex are “special”.


38 posted on 11/30/2012 5:31:48 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Bigg Red; Chode; GeronL

“I think that one turned out to be an urban legend — along the lines of the gerbil thing.”

Don’t be so sure!!!

ARMAGEDDON!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTrOb8zyrZk


39 posted on 11/30/2012 5:34:56 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

bump


40 posted on 11/30/2012 7:27:54 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Bigg Red

I wish this was an urban legend too

Tax funded Planned Parenthood (works with publik skoolz) encourages kids to go ahead and spread AIDS/HIV to their partners if they aren’t comfortable telling them about their HIV status.

That is illegal in most states isn’t it?

It’s right there on their own website, a copy of the pamphlet they hand out.

http://ippf.org/resources/publications/healthy-happy-hot


41 posted on 11/30/2012 7:32:57 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Resolute Conservative; Morgana
Don’t you think Morgana could have tied all these articles into one so we don;t have to read the same stas over and over again.

Are you kidding me? It's her thing, don'tcha know. Everything creepy and vile to turn the stomachs of the Freeper community.


42 posted on 11/30/2012 10:01:32 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Boogieman
Did I miss something, is it HIV Day or what? Why all the articles on the subject all of the sudden?


43 posted on 11/30/2012 10:54:18 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Morgana

I call it sarcasm.


44 posted on 12/01/2012 4:56:16 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Morgana

All I can say is I-R-O-N-I-C. Supposedly we were promised if their relationships were called marriage, that disease and promiscuity would go away, yet in nations like Great Britain were they have legalized and given recognition to the union of same-sex marriage, HIV infection is becoming increasingly prevalent in the overall proportion of MSM.


45 posted on 12/04/2012 6:33:27 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Jonty30

Yeah, but the drugs to keep you alive longer are insanely expensive. Honestly, with more and more of the population infected, think of how much this is going to spike the healthcare costs on just about everyone.


46 posted on 12/04/2012 6:36:35 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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“Supposedly we were promised if their relationships were called marriage, that disease and promiscuity would go away, “

Why don't I remember this?

I thought they wanted “marriage” so they could have hospital visitation rights to their lovers and be able to provide health care benefits to their “spouse”. Et cetera.

Basically the same legal benefits heterosexuals enjoy. I never expected them to be monogamous with or without this so called "marriage" charade.

47 posted on 12/04/2012 9:17:40 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

Neither did I. I make fun of their own words and promises. It’s my own style.


48 posted on 12/04/2012 10:45:15 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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