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1 posted on 12/02/2012 3:00:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Goering had two kids, but very small.

Himmler...something similar.

2 posted on 12/02/2012 3:03:50 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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No child is responsible for the sins of his or her parents. None. How can you be held accountable for that which someone else did at a time when you either didn’t exist or were too small and powerless to stop?


3 posted on 12/02/2012 3:04:40 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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The kids are not responsible for who their parents were or what evil their parents did.
The kids are only responsible for what THEY do on this planet.

Hopefully, their parents’ murderous deeds will inspire the kids to do great things to help the survivors and their families and people in Israel or where-ever, but the kids are NOT to blame for their parents.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 3:06:13 PM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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My family [on my mother’s side] are Austrian - but the family had lived in Czechoslovakia since at least the 1700’s. In the 1800’s, they moved back to Austria [most of them] ...

After the Germans annexed the Sudetenland [where my remaining relatives lived], a VERY distant cousin was a judge working with the occupying Nazis ...

Whether he willingly collaborated, or was forced to work with them, I do not know ...

What I do know is that after the Russians liberated the region, a series of atrocities against German [Austrian] ethnics occurred. These included massacres, kangaroo “trials”, forced one-on-one barehanded fights [between relatives - winner getting to live], rapes, etc.

My cousin realized that he and his family would suffer from this because of his work [willing or not] with the Nazis. So, he took his entire family of 9 out into a field - killed them and then himself ...


6 posted on 12/02/2012 3:14:12 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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This documentary was originally shown on British TV back in June. Fortunately it was posted to a UK torrent site. I found it extremely interesting...and moving.


9 posted on 12/02/2012 3:26:01 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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Great niece had herself sterilized. Over-react much?


10 posted on 12/02/2012 3:31:59 PM PST by ffusco (The President will return this country to what it once was...An arctic wasteland covered in ice.)
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That’s still another casualty of Herman Goering and the Nazis, that his great-grandniece underwent sterilization. It’s obvious to this FReeper that there’s nothing wrong with her genetic code that she or her progeny will become monsters, given that she is so wracked with guilt that she denies herself children. Very sad.


11 posted on 12/02/2012 3:34:54 PM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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I went to school for several years with a grandson of Joachim von Ribbentrop. And, at the same, with a descendant (not quite as direct) of the man who hung him!


20 posted on 12/02/2012 4:07:37 PM PST by The_Trooper
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This story is about exonerating liberals for voting obama. It’s psych ops and the guilty must be assuaged.


22 posted on 12/02/2012 4:14:57 PM PST by Track9 (The MSM needs a laugh track)
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Bettina Goering is a nut. She practically suggests that Nazi beliefs are inherited by sterilizing herself. What a pompous noob.


26 posted on 12/02/2012 4:33:48 PM PST by Amberdawn
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I worked in the same office with the granddaughter of Herman Gehring. her family had changed the spelling of their name. she said it was just something she had to deal with in life


28 posted on 12/02/2012 4:41:32 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton used American taxpayer money, personnel, equipment and facilities to wage war and overthrow the governments of Libya and Egypt. They have been attempting the same in Syria. There are some bad actors who have died because of this. There are also innocent people who have died because of this. Now, I’m an American, and if I can see an American interest in waging a war, well, I can live with that. But Libya, Egypt and Syria? And if there has been an American interest, Obama and Hillary haven’t even tried to explain it. Starting wars without an American interest is murder. Ask Chelsea Clinton what it’s like to have monsters for parents.


30 posted on 12/02/2012 4:45:12 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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“Guilt by blood.”

Think about that for a little bit. It is both true and not true. If you consider that you yourself are guilty by virtue of blood, you are well on the way to wisdom. If, however, you find yourself thinking that there are some who are guilty by virtue of their blood, but, certainly, not you, then you are primed to become something you cannot imagine yourself to be. You are the very thing Hannah Arendt pointed to when she coined the phrase, “The banality of evil.”

If certain Germans, related to the Goerings, Hoess’, Goeths, Franks, and who-knows-who-else’s of this world, are guilty by virtue of blood relation, how different is that from the Nazis’ own accusation of guilt by blood association of the Jews? This is just one group blaming another for all the world’s problems. But the problem is deeper than that, far deeper, more personal than that, far more intimate than that. The problem touches each of us.

The world cares little for what the Bible - God’s Word! - says about sin and guilt and evil. But it is so right. It is so perceptive and true. Which is, probably, why most of the world dismisses it. It is too uncomfortably on point.

Evil is a condition in which we find ourselves immersed. Some give evidence of the reality of evil in obvious, plainly seen ways, others in subtle, easily shrugged off ways. But we all swim in it, breathe it in, and walk through it.

As we enter once more into the season of Advent, the season of preparing ourselves for why - why! - the eternal Son of God became man and came into the world, it would be well worth our while, each of us, to consider the banality of evil and what the phrase “blood guilt” means and does not mean.

Christmas will be much more meaningful for us if we do.


39 posted on 12/02/2012 5:42:42 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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Guilt by blood is a disgusting concept. When I was younger, my best friend was named Hans. His parents where two liberal UN employees. His grandfather was a Nazi party member before 1933. My father, a Holocaust survivor, and mother, a daughter of two survivors, never had a problem with our friendship. Hans’s grandfather was an evil man, long dead.


40 posted on 12/02/2012 6:02:58 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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I think Goering got blamed for more than he was guilty.

What he was guilty of was not being a very good Reichmarshall.

After the Stalag 18 or whatever number it was, escape, Hitler ordered them all to be exectuted which was a violation of the laws of war.

Goering convinced Hitler to not do it. I doubt the Americans who loved because of Goering thought he was such a criminal.

I have also read that he was a pleasant person on a one to one situation. He also loved to hunt wild boar and deer.


45 posted on 12/02/2012 6:37:20 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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The horror of Nazi Germany is not one of bloodlines; it's the fact that a very civilized people with enormous, significant contributions to science and the arts raised up so many monsters so quickly.

I have ancestors who owned slaves--I do not know any details or even their names--but their sin is not mine.
50 posted on 12/02/2012 9:30:32 PM PST by Nepeta
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