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The Decadence of Procreation (Hating Humans)
New York Magazine ^ | 12/5/2012 | ANN FRIEDMAN

Posted on 12/05/2012 6:06:16 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 12/05/2012 6:06:20 PM PST by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 12/05/2012 6:13:59 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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Whn most people get married they expect to have children.

Now that’s called decadence?

Geez: What a world.


3 posted on 12/05/2012 6:19:53 PM PST by Venturer
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The writer is an idiot.

Although if they want to ban leftist freaks and celebutards having kids, I might go for that.


4 posted on 12/05/2012 6:21:09 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Last year, the Department of Agriculture estimated a middle-income couple spent $12,290 to $14,320 a year per child. More recently, the Times' Nadia Taha published her calculations of how much it would cost her and her husband to have a child: A safer apartment. A better health-insurance plan. Lost wages. College. Total lifetime tab? $1.8 million.

I'm always amazed at how people accept these bullcrap figures regarding the cost of raising a child. If it costs $1.8 million to raise a single kid, how is it that families grow in the poorest parts of the world? And why does she factor in college expense as part of the cost of having a kid? Bizzarro world of feminists.

So if your sitter costs $15 per hour and you go out for a quiet 2-hour dinner it costs a total of $200?! Maybe you should reconsider the yacht setting for your $170 lobster and filet meal...

5 posted on 12/05/2012 6:21:30 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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My seventh grandchild came home from the hospital this afternoon. I guess my daughter and her husband haven’t been told they were decadent to produce two children in 2 years.


6 posted on 12/05/2012 6:22:36 PM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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well, prepping for a rainy day is “selfish” to leftists.

These people are all insane.


7 posted on 12/05/2012 6:25:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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They throw out numbers just to see if they stick I think


8 posted on 12/05/2012 6:28:11 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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something i'm guessing she doesn't have to worry tooo much about...

9 posted on 12/05/2012 6:35:16 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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...yet more tripe from a feminist who probably couldn’t get laid if she offered to pay for the room.


10 posted on 12/05/2012 6:36:19 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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Perhaps if all of the elite, eugenicists, would just march themselves off of a cliff, the world would be a better place.

To the extent there are any shortages of resources in the world, they are imposed by oppressive governments.


11 posted on 12/05/2012 6:44:01 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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I married the best person I ever met. She has the traits and characteristics that I think should be projected into the future. Our Son has many of her traits and characteristics and it makes me grateful to know that he will carry forward all that is wonderful about her.
“Where a man’s treasure is, there you will find his heart.” It sure does cost money to raise children, but where else can you get such a great Return On Investment? The first time I held his cheek to mine, I was hooked. Every New Year, I think , “Wow! What a great year! He’s grown so much! How can it get any better?” But it gets better every year.
I don’t view my Son as a cost for me or society. I see him as a tremendous asset. He is well trained and capable of doing much good. I also have a niece who is severely handicapped, physically and mentally. But everyone who knows her loves her. She is the best model I know to teach fortitude and unconditional love. She is a blessing.
I understand that there is great sorrow and fear in this world. There is pain and suffering and death. But having a child is opening the door and looking out into the dark and lighting a candle and stepping out, knowing that daylight is near.


12 posted on 12/05/2012 6:54:17 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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I have many friends of my generation (I am 60 years old) who never wanted or had children. For the most part, they are like wrinkly adolescents. They have lots of adult toys and go on vacations a lot. Most of them are quite liberal in their politics. I often think that they ought to be grateful to those of us whose children will be providing their Social Security payments when they retire in a few years. It’s funny that they think they are so smart and sophisticated by not having children. But really, if they are so strongly convinced that they are right, why don’t they attempt to pass on their values to the next generation? To me, it’s just not civilized.


13 posted on 12/05/2012 7:19:35 PM PST by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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I think to reform this broken SS system, we should mandate that 25% or more of your support come directly from your own children. :p


14 posted on 12/05/2012 7:24:28 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Too bad Miss Friedman’s parents didn’t act more responsibly instead of burdening this world with yet another “Greenwich Village Idiot”


15 posted on 12/05/2012 7:27:35 PM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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1.8 million?

How do middle class families manage to have children, when the average wage is a bit below 50 grand a year? It will take them 35 years just to make and spend that first 1.8 million.

I think someone’s full of it with their numbers.

Most couples I know are middle class, and most of them are average wage, and most of them have 2-4 kids.

Must be the yacht lessons or the skiing lessons or the flying lessons or the driving lessons....a waste, of course, if you’re a Kennedy.


16 posted on 12/05/2012 7:30:40 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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I think what's eating her is the fact that those so-called 'status symbols' mark a return to the norm for the human race. In other words, her own bent for contrariness is no longer being reinforced as high-status.

A factiod from a 1960s Buckley column stuck in my mind: in a survey of the tony-arty set around '65 or so, most of them said they preferred black and white TV to colour. These were people who could have easily afforded colour if they wanted it. In other words, they preferred the more primitive kind of TV because it wasn't "popular."

Much later, I found out that this is a common affectation of the chattering classes from the book The Intellectuals And The Masses.

Over in the UK, there are lots of those people. [Warning: They tend to want the UK to become a Republic, but they are not "Republican."] In days of old, they were pegged as schemers. They may still be to a large extent.

17 posted on 12/05/2012 7:37:34 PM PST by danielmryan
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Just think about this mindset:

“It must be difficult to accept that .. you cannot afford the very best of everything for your child.”

The very best of everything? Who really thinks that way but for a subculture of selfish yuppies? I’m all for their not reproducing. They’d make wretched parents who’d raise an even more horrid child.


18 posted on 12/05/2012 7:39:31 PM PST by EDINVA
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we should mandate that 25% or more of your support
come directly from your own children.

Already been done - in Science Fiction
http://www.amazon.com/The-Unincorporated-Man-Essential-Books/dp/B0030EG1BA

Each person “Issued” stock at birth
20% held by each parent
5% held by the Government
55% is “Yours”

Income goes to the “Corporation”
Stock can be bought and sold on open market, as made available
Marriage involves exchange of stock

19 posted on 12/05/2012 7:46:55 PM PST by HangnJudge
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lol

interesting


20 posted on 12/05/2012 7:50:17 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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