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To: BlueDragon
"This latest, with the Italian and his "wire" at one of the links...what is that but marginal?

"...the Italian and his wire..." happens to be one of Italy's (and Europe's) more prominent physicists, and "his wire" just happens to be one of the very promising approaches to LENR that is producing exciting results. He has recently given an invited lecture at CERN about it (videos available online, and links posted in severl threads here), and has demonstrated it at several legitimate venues.

He and his research have nothing to do with Rossi other than the fact that both involve LENR and that they both happen to be Italian.

That you consider that "marginal" simply points out how clueless you really are on this subject. You'll probably consider that comment an insult.....but dang it, it is simply true.

149 posted on 12/14/2012 8:44:16 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
There you go with the clueless stuff again. Is your own ego so wrapped up in what you KNOW? It certainly appears so.

Why doesn't the Italian in some way help provide the proper materials to assist in having the results duplicated outside of his own lab? If there is some patent concern, then well...that could be a good reason. If it's simply science at this point, there is none.

It does seem to me you WANT others to be "clueless" if they don't agree with you right off the bat. And you have long demonstrated habit of making declarative statements, bringing scarce support for the same, while getting pissy when folks don't just bow down to your "superior knowledge".

There HAVE been lots of problems in the LENR field. That's been part of it. Excess heat measurements calculated with calorimetry, which may or may not have been result of chemical reactions, or possible loose controls, etc. All of that sort of thing bears looking at. That is what skepticism is for. To see if there is a problem, a what could go wrong, what could have gone wrong approach. Some others (not necessarily myself) here have taken that sort of investigative approach, and been bashed for it, more or less called ignorant.

You yourself in touting this according to you "prominent physicist" "producing existing results" and a "very promising approach" fail here to simply speak of it neutrally, possibly bringing a link for this physicist's work, and better yet, having that work confirmed by others, uncontaminated by being linked in an article still touting Rossi as some sort of "leader". Instead, I get get called clueless. What next? The repeat of the claim that there have been more than 10,000 confirmations? Is that what comes next? With no real examination of that claim, beyond yourself possibly repeating what you have read elsewhere, leaving little or no way to properly quantify that without bumping against your OWN leaning upon argument of authority?

You can hurl "clueless" all you want. But those whom thought Rossi a rat-fink all along turned out to be not so clueless.

150 posted on 12/14/2012 10:35:08 AM PST by BlueDragon (I sang Dixie as he died The people just walked on by as I cried...)
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