I am so sick and tired of reading the blame of mass killers on prescription drugs. It has the same lack of logic as the gun banners.
Questions:
1. How do you know that the use of prescription drugs does not keep us safe from thousands of similar mentally ill ?
2. How do you know that (assuming a drug was used by the perpetrator)the drug caused the action and that the drug had its desired affect?
3. How do you know the drug was used as prescribed? Did the person skip doses, did he combine it with other drugs?
4. Do you believe that any medicines are effective? If so, why are you against psychotropic drugs?
5. Do you realize that other foods and environmental triggers are capable of affecting our hormones and resulting psychology? Do we ban everything that does the same?
6. Many mentally ill seek self medication which leads them to alcohol abuse, drug abuse, adrenalin seeking behaviors, etc. Do we let the mentally seek such destructive behavior or do we try to regulate it with the use of science, measure and consult?
I assume you and the gun grabbers have the same motive that is based on denial that bad things happen to good people. We do not have control over many of these events. No laws will protect us. No gun laws, no drug bans etc will protect.
Only love will endure. Only love will bear all things.
If you will consider my reply #3: "Evidence is that prescribed drugs are a problem.. "
I indicated that I know that there is evidence and it's a fact that there is evidence; and I did not say that there is evidence that psychotropic drugs are the only problem. My illustration represents the tenor of the evidence.
Thank you for you civil manner I will do my best to help keep it that way.
In that spirit I will admit that I am inclined to believe that mind-altering drugs can cause problem if for no other reason than misuse.
I want to know what drug he was on.
These medications do not work for everyone.
**1. How do you know that the use of prescription drugs does not keep us safe from thousands of similar mentally ill ? **
We don’t, but we do know that there is a correlation with those that have been on them and had adverse reactions coming off as well as under the influence. Just as the link of the OP picks demonstrate. (This link does not seem to be updated anymore because I think the author died.)
http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=school
***2. How do you know that (assuming a drug was used by the perpetrator)the drug caused the action and that the drug had its desired affect?***
SSRI’s were used by all three of the criminals from the OP link.
The latest, Adam Lanza, was using at least Fanapt according to the uncle.
“Fanapt: (Iloperidone) is an antipsychotic medication. It works by changing the effects of chemicals in the brain.” just all these SSRI’s do. Iloperidone is used to treat schizophrenia but lately also prescribed more for depression, bipolar, insomnia and anxiety.
We don’t know and all those examples are very dangerous with these medications due to the fact that they “work by changing the effects of chemicals in the brain.”
SSRI Antidepressants Are Not Medicine
http://saveyourself.ca/articles/reality-checks/anti-depressants.php
Yes, there are many medicines in general that are effective even though there are very many that really just mask the underlying ailment and do not cure an illness such as these SSRI’s that “work by changing the effects of chemicals in the brain” though they don’t understand “how” exactly. We do know that SSRI’s tend to dull sensitivities and emotions where as they also in some users they are not capability of feeling empathy for others and not able to be aware of how their actions effect others around them and/or suffer from grandious over inflated view of themselves and their opinions.
“The side-effects of anti-depressants are actually numerous, severe, potentially life-threatening, and not widely known or even understood. They cause a low but measurable rate of psychotic mania, for instance — equal to millions of people who have been reduced to quivering wrecks, their behaviour drastically altered, careers, marriages and lives lost. Withdrawal symptoms from SSRI’s are even more problematic.”
Let’s see... Iloperidone (FANAPT) was Adam Lanza’s drug according to the uncle.
From drugs.com some reported side effects of the drug
Fanapt:
•confusion
•actions that are out of control
•aggressive or angry
•agitation
•coma
•confusion as to time, place, or person
•depression
•delusions of persecution, mistrust, suspiciousness, or combativeness
•loss of memory
•false beliefs that cannot be changed by facts
•irritability
•lightheadedness
•nervousness
http://www.rxlist.com/fanapt-side-effects-drug-center.htm
“Psychiatric Disorders: Frequent - restlessness, aggression, delusion; Infrequent - hostility, libido decreased, paranoia, anorgasmia, confusional state, mania, catatonia, mood swings, panic attack, obsessive-compulsive disorder, bulimia nervosa, delirium, polydipsia psychogenic, impulse-control disorder, major depression”
http://www.drugs.com/cons/fanapt.html
Adam’s uncle said Adam was taking an anti-psychotic drug called Fanapt.
“Adam Lanza’s mother had been increasingly concerned over her son’s well-being in the weeks before the tragedy, telling a friend just a week before that he was “getting worse” and that “she was losing him,”
Any bets that Adam was also prescribed another SSRI that “works by changing the effects of chemicals in the brain” on top of his Fanapt that “works by changing the effects of chemicals in the brain” which would have increased the original drug’s effects?
Fox and FR used to report on these.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtrLBYwIOZs
Psychiatry is suede science in my opinion that they call the medical treatment of the psyche and it has become obvious that these antidepressants are over prescribed for many ailments that don’t even have anything to do with the purported behavior, mental health and psychology issues they are prescribed for.
“SSRIs quite literally just “mess with your head,” specifically interfering with the function of a common messenger molecule (serotonin), one of thousands of others, whose purpose and broad significance to brain function in general is only vaguely understood, and whose particular significance to depression is completely unknown. Consider this 2010 article in New Scientist, emphasizing how recent research has only emphasized our ignorance:
-If you thought depression was caused by low serotonin levels, think again. It looks as if the brain chemistry of a depressed person is much more complex, with mounting evidence suggesting that too much serotonin in some brain regions is to blame.-
The most sophisticated method known for even measuring serotonin levels in the brain — never mind understanding the significance of these measurements — is to grind up a piece of brain, spin it in a centrifuge, and measure the sum total of serotonin relative to other substances. And how about our ability to measure the amount of serotonin in any given synapse at any time? Exactly zero. Yet the marketing of these drugs would have us believe that they are extremely specific in their effects. It is simply not so.”