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To: freedomfiter2

With all due respect to you and the Speaker, I think you are both wrong. Government needs to get out of the marriage business altogether. Why does anyone need a government stamp of approval to “recognize” what is suppose to be a joining of two people before God.

Most religious “conservatives” don’t want to hear that but as long as government is seen as the ultimate authority this is what you get.


5 posted on 12/22/2012 5:31:44 AM PST by Honcho
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To: Honcho

“Why does anyone need a government stamp of approval to “recognize” what is suppose to be a joining of two people before God.”

Because in a civil society, you need some form of arbitration to settle custody and property rights, and that has fallen to government and the court system.


7 posted on 12/22/2012 5:40:26 AM PST by WILLIALAL
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The problem is that there are legal issues related to marriage such as property rights etc. Biblically, God involved the government in adultery and divorce cases. Marriage from the beginning was a family and society thing. The church only inserted itself rather recently. Other than dealing with the moral aspects, the church should stay out of it.


22 posted on 12/22/2012 7:30:58 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Honcho
With all due respect to you and the Speaker, I think you are both wrong. Government needs to get out of the marriage business altogether. Why does anyone need a government stamp of approval to “recognize” what is suppose to be a joining of two people before God.

So how does government decide who is entitled to government benefits like SS, Medicare, federal and state pension survivor benefits, etc.? Government needs a definition of marriage because it is imbedded in our laws, regulations, etc.

And why should it be limited to just two people? Or among family members? Or based on age? We have all kinds of laws affecting marriage. Should they also be eliminated?

23 posted on 12/22/2012 7:45:23 AM PST by kabar
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