But Appendiz E was given to the Board by the objector - right?
And Appendix E is the Hawaii verification that was given to the Mississippi Court by the lawyers for Obama, right?
They are the listed recipients
“Recipient of Verification: Scott J. Tepper and Samuel L. Begley, attorneys for the Mississippi Democratic Party in Taitz et. al. v. Democratic Party of Mississippi [sic], et al, No 3:12-cv-00280-HTW-LRA (S.D. Miss.)”
So are you saying that when SoS Kobach says “and there have been certifications, including one that is in our packet given to a court in Mississippi by the State of Hawaii certifying”, he is not talking about the Mississippi verification that was in the material submitted by the objector but a different Mississippi verification sent directly to the Mississippi Court by the Hawaii DOH?
In other words, you are saying that there are in fact four certified verifications (Arizona, MDEC, the Mississippi Court and Kansas).
Courts don’t do their own investigations, so someone would have had to request Hawaii send directly to the court a verification. That would be reflected in the docket for that case.
Why if he already had this new verification did he say “We could request the State of Hawaii and the other two states provide the information they have in a certified form.”? Arizona and Mississippi could not send him certified copies unless they decided to send him their original Hawaiian documents.
IMO, when he talks about the one in the packet, he’s talking about Appendix E, not some new verfication.
He would not know the provenance of that document. So seeking additional information would be the prudent thing to do. Looking at one of the other objections - Mr. Sawyer’s, they took a lot of testimony and evidence to determine the residence of a candidate, so I’m not surprised that they would try to get additional info before making a decision.
"He would not know the provenance of that document. So seeking additional information would be the prudent thing to do."you're agreeing with me. This shows that Kobach acknowledged the MDEC letter of verification was NOT compelling evidence to make Obama eligible to be on the Kansas ballot. That's what I said already.
Yes, they had a chance to do this in three days prior to the hearing. At the hearing itself, Obama and his counsel were no shows. For some reason Kobach took it on himself to represent Obama. When Kobach said, "I have inquired as to what factual information was presented in other states ..."; this means he did some sort of fact gathering or fact checking prior to the hearing. He should have already obtained whatever additional documentation, certified or otherwise, was needed because the law says the board is supposed to make a decision at the conclusion of the hearing on the same day.
BTW, Kobach also claimed he had studied up on U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, but he had NOTHING to counter what the SCOTUS specifically said in that decision: the 14th amendment does NOT say who shall be natural-born citizens. Obama's attorneys relied exclusively on the 14th amendment, but that claim is contradicted in Wong Kim Ark and by the caselaw in the seven other Supreme Court cases that were cited.