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WARNING: VETERANS - THE VA SYSTEM HAS GONE TO THE DARK SIDE (UNDER PRESSURE FROM THE MESSIAH?)
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Posted on 01/31/2013 10:24:29 PM PST by Chance Hart

WARNING: VETERANS - THE VA SYSTEM HAS GONE TO THE DARK SIDE (UNDER PRESURE FROM THE MESSIAH?) Wanted to let my fellow Vets know that if you have not had reason to read your records that are being generated by the VA system, that you are being assigned by a numerical value - all that you say and is written regarding your visits and other communication within the VA system, following a path to make you a concern for this administration as a potential terrorist or other that should and will have their Constitutional Rights REVOKED by the powers that be. I had reason a short time ago to acquire my previous year VA Medical records. While reading through them, I was surprised (to say the least) at the content of these records for the past year. First, there was the casual questioning about my drinking habits. Upon evaluation of my answers, I was considered a (negative) as far as dangerous alcohol consumption with a rating of 2. Had I been the regular guy that answered that they were just a casual alcohol user, I could have easily rated a 4, which would have made me a potential risk to myself and others. Alcohol at that level is rated a "Disorder" (mental) The next conversation on my records was an evaluation for PTSD - Had I not passed that questioning, I would have been classified with PTSD Mental disorder. I could go on and on about the judgement factors in this paperwork, but the bottom line is that almost anything is quantified as a potential Mental Disorder. I smoke 1/2 pack of cigs a day, and I am classified as having TOD - A Tobacco (MENTAL DISORDER) - list goes on and on. My Urologist (not even a certified Doctor - Stated in my report that - Veteran came to my office (once again wearing BIKER REGALIA) - I wore my Harley hat I guess on a couple visits and now that has been noted by a NOBODY that I may be a 1%er hard core biker - although I ride less than 200 miles a year for the enjoyment of it - Again, a potential threat to the STATE. You need to go to your VA Records Dept. and get your Records in order to find out if you have been classified a threat to the Government, so they can Disarm you - or worse in the near future! Stalin, Hitler and various others would be proud


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1 posted on 01/31/2013 10:24:37 PM PST by Chance Hart
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To: Chance Hart

not shocking that a federal program has been corrupted by the politics of the commies


2 posted on 01/31/2013 10:28:08 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Chance Hart

Forgot to post Government Coding for LIST of things that make you a person with a DISORDER - According to Big Sis and others. They want your GUNS! Being proclaimed as a “Mental Deviant” will allow them to DISARM YOU!
http://www.icd9data.com/


3 posted on 01/31/2013 10:29:21 PM PST by Chance Hart
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To: Chance Hart

I suspect the Party is a little disconcerted by the idea of a couple million armed combat vets walking around unsupervised.

Go figure. Either you fear the government, or It fears you. Where are we?


4 posted on 01/31/2013 10:37:43 PM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed)
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To: Chance Hart

The only reason the media allows any mention of mental health to intrude in the current gun-control propaganda is because of stuff like this. People with the wrong politics will be declared mentally unfit.


5 posted on 01/31/2013 10:38:46 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Chance Hart

A urologist is clearly a “certified” doctor.


6 posted on 01/31/2013 10:39:22 PM PST by Bob
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To: Chance Hart

Reject PTSD diagnoses.


7 posted on 01/31/2013 10:40:18 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Bob

Not True - Although he is in charge of Urology at my VA Hospital, he is NOT a MD - Guess you get what you pay for - even if it with your own blood!


8 posted on 01/31/2013 10:46:42 PM PST by Chance Hart
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To: Chance Hart

This is the threat of Obamas 23 Executive orders regarding Sandy Hook.

20 of them were totally lame and accomplished nothing.
3 of them opened the food gates for your Doc to be a squealer.

What gives a GP or a PA or RN the credentials to declare your mental state to the STATE or the FED?

It they are just general healthcare providers their opinion is worthless.
It’s probably pretty worthless as a Psychologist too.

Obama’s main thrust in the EO was to tell healthcare providers they should not fear law suits when forming an opinion that could strip a persons rights.


9 posted on 01/31/2013 10:49:27 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Chance Hart

They’re paranoid about having another “Battle of Athens” on a national level.


10 posted on 01/31/2013 10:50:50 PM PST by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Chance Hart

So the Urologist has a problem with the mind set of 1%ers?

What are his qualifications as to appraising mental state?


11 posted on 01/31/2013 10:53:50 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

EXACTLY MY POINT


12 posted on 01/31/2013 10:56:18 PM PST by Chance Hart
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To: Chance Hart

Thanks for the input.


13 posted on 01/31/2013 10:57:14 PM PST by blam
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To: Chance Hart

If he’s a non-MD administrator in charge of a urology department, he’s not a urologist. A urologist is an MD who specializes in urology.


14 posted on 01/31/2013 10:57:14 PM PST by Bob
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To: Chance Hart

So you you ride a bike.
Is there a law against that?

Here is a clue Mr Urologist.
Most Vets are Risk Takers that Love Freedom.

You may have noticed that while you where examining my Purple Nurple, LOL!!


15 posted on 01/31/2013 10:57:26 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Chance Hart

Bob was being sarcastic.


17 posted on 01/31/2013 10:59:11 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Bob

My mistake LOL!

I thought you were being sarcastic. LOL

Which head is the Urologist qualified to examine?


18 posted on 01/31/2013 11:00:42 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: zipper

for ltr


19 posted on 01/31/2013 11:05:27 PM PST by MarineMom613 (RIP Sandra Sue, my fur baby 12/31/1999 ~ 7/2/2010 - See you on the other side!)
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To: Chance Hart

Obama has sent us down a slippery slope with the EO declarations that healthcare folks should rat on patients.

Plenty of it will be just personal feeling grounded in no “professional” opinion.


20 posted on 01/31/2013 11:06:20 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Chance Hart

I never tell them more than what hurts..if the start asking questions I give them the answers that show I’m pure as newly fallen snow..


21 posted on 01/31/2013 11:12:05 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: Chance Hart

I watched mass hysteria after Sandy Hook as the nation looked for answers.

I saw the majority try to assign Lanzas actions to Aspergers.
Aspergers does not manifest itself in psychosis.

Then I watched the majority, Blame the Mother.

Then I saw them blame innocent gun owners.

I saw lot’s of experts testify.
Who the hell are these EXPERTS?


22 posted on 01/31/2013 11:12:40 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“Most Vets are Risk Takers that Love Freedom”

Very true of course you never want to let the VA know that..


23 posted on 01/31/2013 11:14:43 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe

Meh.. I got no VA benefits to speak of.

Oh I got a VA loan and I can join the VFW.
That’s about it.


24 posted on 01/31/2013 11:17:30 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Chance Hart

Is he possibly an osteopathic doctor?differant line of medical training,but still a doctor


25 posted on 01/31/2013 11:41:07 PM PST by screaming eagle2 (no matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle,IS STILL A USED CAR!)
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To: Chance Hart

THANK YOU FOR the info...


26 posted on 01/31/2013 11:50:20 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Chance Hart

I saw a commercial yesterday urging vets to contact the VA to discuss feelings they may be having.


27 posted on 01/31/2013 11:56:18 PM PST by Selene
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To: Selene

feelings?

lolz


28 posted on 02/01/2013 12:05:43 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Chance Hart

...with all the coding it looks like they can just about classify you as they want.....(risk factors)


29 posted on 02/01/2013 12:18:20 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Chance Hart

Am reading “Whores of the Courts” which basically states that Psychiatry-—psychology is a pseudo-science. It is a big “guessing” game and hearsay.

It really needs to be discredited——the entire field-—because otherwise it is the Camel under the Tent. It is what Stalin did-——just locked up or killed any one his “goons” decided were “mentally unfit”. It is a BIG LEFTIST tool-—psychiatry.

http://whoresofthecourt.com/


30 posted on 02/01/2013 1:02:08 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Selene

Our culture is really toxic now.....I quit watching TV and will not tolerate commercials.


31 posted on 02/01/2013 1:04:03 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: montanajoe

Absolutely the right approach. Don’t volunteer any info..answer the questions asked, as any person who is “pure at the driven snow” would answer. Give them nothing to hold against you.


32 posted on 02/01/2013 2:00:38 AM PST by itssme
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To: screaming eagle2

an osteopath?

I have always preferred them.


33 posted on 02/01/2013 2:57:32 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Chance Hart

Those who would lead the resistance are being targeted


34 posted on 02/01/2013 3:21:23 AM PST by ronnie raygun ( Lexington / Concord, America's first gun grab attempt)
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To: Chance Hart

I wore my Hooters tee shirt to a recent Dr. visit. The front of the shirt reads “Alcohol Research In Progerss.”
Probably a bad choice.


35 posted on 02/01/2013 3:56:50 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: savagesusie

a pseudo-science as with any science based on statistics, like weather forecasting or global warming?

Also, it is infiltrated with liberals because of the human services element.

The liberals pervert everything they touch, and they can’t touch the soul of man so it doesn’t exist. God doesn’t exist. So their science presuppositions are flawed. Like evolutionists and all other sciences based on theory.


36 posted on 02/01/2013 4:21:42 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: zipper
"They’re paranoid about having another “Battle of Athens” on a national level."

Good. It's time for it.

Impeach the kenyan or secession.


37 posted on 02/01/2013 4:22:53 AM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Chance Hart

Based on my experiences with doctors’ offices in Minnestoopid, I run my responses through a filter. All my answers would be what one would expect from a typical MSNBC viewer.


38 posted on 02/01/2013 5:46:36 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: huldah1776

Good response.


39 posted on 02/01/2013 6:52:19 AM PST by doberville
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To: Chance Hart
First, there was the casual questioning about my drinking habits. Upon evaluation of my answers, I was considered a (negative) as far as dangerous alcohol consumption with a rating of 2.

It's not only the VA.
My last trip to the hospital I glanced at the questionnaire that had been compiled on previous trips.
The nurse was verifying the info.

On the question of alcohol I had said in the past that I usually had a glass of wine before dinner.
I don't remember the exact wording but the questionnaire reported that I was an alcoholic.

If there is any way to check your medical records, do so.
All those records get written in stone and can be used against you.

40 posted on 02/01/2013 7:25:00 AM PST by Vinnie (A)
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To: Vinnie
Legally, you also have the right to rebut erroneous and misleading statements you may find in your record, although you might fight hard in order to get to do so. It would be a good idea to request copies of your medical record at least every year or so.

Sadly, I also agree totally with the folks who are less than totally honest with their responses regarding alcohol and other lifestyle choices. STDs, sexual trauma, legal history, etc., is medically pertinent, but in many cases providers will see this information and treat you with less care than you might deserve.

41 posted on 02/01/2013 2:46:16 PM PST by binreadin
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To: Vinnie
Legally, you also have the right to rebut erroneous and misleading statements you may find in your record, although you might fight hard in order to get to do so. It would be a good idea to request copies of your medical record at least every year or so.

Sadly, I also agree totally with the folks who are less than totally honest with their responses regarding alcohol and other lifestyle choices. STDs, sexual trauma, legal history, etc., is medically pertinent, but in many cases providers will see this information and treat you with less care than you might deserve.

42 posted on 02/01/2013 2:46:29 PM PST by binreadin
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To: Chance Hart

“Urologist “

I would find it hard to believe someone that is not medically licensed can call themselves a Urologist. What exactly is his title?


43 posted on 02/01/2013 2:52:02 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: binreadin

Next questionnaire I gonna be less than honest.
Your medical record may/will determine whether you get treatment under Obamacare.


44 posted on 02/01/2013 3:23:54 PM PST by Vinnie (A)
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To: Bob
A urologist is clearly a “certified” doctor.

Nah. Our local TV station has a weatherman who's a meteor urologist.

45 posted on 02/07/2013 6:13:40 PM PST by archy
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Nah. Our local TV station has a weatherman who's a meteor urologist.

That's about as absurd as claiming that an astronomer is a proctologist just because he's studied Uranus. :=)

46 posted on 02/07/2013 6:26:42 PM PST by Bob
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