Skip to comments.VANITY: Anyone watching "The Americans" on Fx network?
Posted on 02/14/2013 7:22:23 AM PST by OKSooner
Has anyone been watching this show? Last nite at 10:00 EST would have been the third installment.
I'm curious what others around here think of it but I'd rather not come out and say what I'm thinking just yet.
(Hint: Posted in chit/chat maybe for a reason.)
I find it fascinating.
I like it. It’s a little cheesy at times, but they do a good job replicating the early 80’s.
I feel old, I cannot believe Keri Russell is pushing 40.
I’ve been watching it. The only drama I watch on TV. I limit my TV time and I enjoy this one.
You don’t know what old is. Geraldine Chaplin (68) in the movie The Impossible.
Its an interesting show but I haven’t really decided whether I like it or not.
I am enjoying it. I’m guessing that a possible criticism might be in their showing Russian spies in too favorable a light. Short of turning them into cardboard cutouts of villains, I think the portrayal is necessary when you’re doing a show that centers around the spies.
A comedian (probably Seinfeld) did a bit about watching the Nature Channel and getting caught up in the point of view of whichever animal the show was about on a particular day.
When the show was about gazelles, he was rooting strongly for them to get away from the lions. Next episode is about lions, and he’s screaming—”C’mon—get that gazelle! Your babies are hungry!”
Keri Russell is still adorable, several decades after “Felicity.” And Matthew Rhys, who played a homosexual in the soap-opera-esque “Brothers and Sisters” is a revelation as a martial-arts-trained, tough-as-nails spy.
I think the show is one of the best new ones of the season.
I also find it fascinating, primarily because the left and Hollywood are now so open about the reality of Soviet spies on US territory. No longer are they countering with “...have you no shame...” anti-McCarthy rhetoric.
SO it is fact, acknowledged on all sides now. There were and may still be, Soviet, and other foreign spies on US territory conspiring against our interests. But the FBI, who is fighting for our system, our culture, and our liberties, is portrayed in the series as the antagonist against the Soviets, who are the good guys?
I sometimes think we as a culture have a death wish, a cultural subliminal suicide desire. If only we were to take the “spies” seriously because they really do wish our demise and end of our system of laws, rights and greatness.
The possibility we have one in the White House just may seal the deal.
I saw the first episode, have the next two on DVR, but haven’t watched them yet.
First episode was interesting. I want to see how the plot develops.
It is interesting that Russkies have again become the more prevalent ‘bad guys’ on television.
I watched the 1st episode of Monday Morning (TNT). It was okay. I watched part of the 2nd episode and turned it off before the first set of commercials. It just wasn’t interesting.
“Im guessing that a possible criticism might be in their showing Russian spies in too favorable a light.”
I was thinking the same, however it occured to me that even tho they are enjoying their life in America, they also have a blind devotion to “the mother country.” It reminds me of Obama drones and I can see how they don’t equate their joy to being the result of capitalism and liberty.
Then we also get to see the struggle of the husband in trying to reconcile that disconnect, but the wife pulling him back to drone status.
We enjoy it. Why won’t you say anything about it?
Nope, Moonshiners was on last night.
Followed by re-runs of Duck Dynasty on A&E.
Now thats good TV, Jack!
The Soviets won.
Yes, that criticism is certainly "possible." As in having the "low information voter" bunch taking the POV of America's enemies and rooting for them to win against loyal Americans, while mentally turning our own counter-espionage people into "enemies." I watched the first episode and was revolted by the total subversiveness of the concept.
I watched the pilot and have the other episodes on my DVR, but haven’t watched them.
Really annoyed by two things:
1) No FBI agent would volunteer that he worked in “counterintelligence” to his new neighbors.
2) DC doesn’t have a “port.” There’s one dock in Alexandria where a ship brings paper for the Washington Post very sporadically, but it certainly doesn’t go overseas.
A soap opera with better lighting.
I need something to entertain me until Season 6 of Sons of Anarchy.
I’ve been watching it; so far so good. Doesn’t seem to put the Soviets in too good a light.
You must have a very weak stomach if you found it revolting.
I don't agree that the FBI are portrayed as antagonists on this show. Of course, they add tension against the main characters, but so far the show writers are depicting them as patriots doing their best to keep the Soviets at bay. We'll see if that theme continues in future episodes, or if the show descends into a psycho babble fest about the good communist fight gone astray by the Reagan doctrine.
So far, I enjoy watching it.
I guess it depends somewhat on the prism through which you view it but I’ve been enjoying it. Firstly I like the recreation of the 80s, I think they’ve done a good job. I also like that every time I think they’ve shown the good guys as looking like they’ve gone overboard, gotten paranoid, etc. the commies do something to prove them right.
The show's quite good..I especially enjoy hearing the Soviets spout all the criticisms of Reagan (i.e. "he's a lunatic")that the MSM and the American left have been using for years..
The twist seems to be that it's the female who is the more ideologically committed/fanatical..the husband seems to have been somewhat "sensitized/softened" by the time they've already spent in the USA.
I like it, although it has been TV-dramatized in much the same manner as NCIS. The reality of Soviet spies would probably be too boring for TV. BTW, I noticed that in the third episode, there was no sex and no warning about sexual situations. I wonder if someone made them quit. It was a bit steamy before last night.
In the show the good guys are the “family”. It works kind of like the Godfather series, we root for that family against both other mobsters and cops because our introduction to them was controlled to make us like them. We learn early on in The Americans that their Soviet leaders are cutthroat and brutal and don’t have the “family’s” best interest in mind, and of course the FBI wants to capture them, but they’re nice people even if they do bad things so we root for them. It’s a hard balance to setup, but once the story teller succeeds it gives them a lot of dramatic potential, because basically everyone around our good guys is a potential threat and thus a bad guy.
One more thing, seeing “John Boy” (Rcihard Thomas) as a CIA/FBI agent is a real hoot.
RE Watching “The Americans”:
No, I can’t say that I do. The only thing I’m keeping up with on TV is “The Walking Dead”...basically, it should be subtitled “What NOT To Do In An Apocalyptic Situation”. It provides a good laugh due to the dumbass things the writers put in there for the characters...
Watched “Breaking Bad” for a while, but I lost interest.
RE Keri Russell: I’m not familiar with her at all.
Because thats what is going on.
I'd say the same about your brain.
They certainly pulled it off in “The Shield.” Vic Mackey was a terrible, terrible person, but you couldn’t help but root for him.
The use of sex by Soviet spies to recruit intelligence sources is accurate, even by a husband and wife team. So also is the brutality and ruthlessness of spying accurate, with blackmail and threats and force used to recruit and control people. Even the approved, routine sexual abuse of Soviet female spies in training is accurate.
The contradictions between being Soviet spies and also loving American parents in suburbia is also true as a major source of tension. In one nearly forgotten case, which was broadly depicted in the movie Little Nikita (1988), a team of illegal Soviet husband and wife spies was detected when their bright and patriotic American born son applied for admission to West Point.
Eventually, in the actual spy case, the two illegals were persuaded to defect to the US, with their son getting a fully merited admission to West Point no less as part of their deal. If The Americans lasts long enough, it may head in that direction. Notably, as in the real case, in The Americans, the wife is the most loyal to the Soviet Union.
As for the broad political implications, The Americans is creditable to our side of the political equation because it takes Soviet spying against the US for what it was: a major threat to our national security, pressed with an amorality and ruthlessness that were integral to the Soviet system.
From commercials, the production value looks high. But aren’t the bad guys the good guys? It seems the central protagonists are commie spies.
So, no thanks. It looks like a vehicle to be able to spew subtle commie propaganda and soften us up to like and identify with commies.
This is the exact plan with Glee and fags. Make a show about a bunch of wholesome talented homosexuals so we “like” and “identify with” them.
It is all part of our reprogramming to meld our minds into what the socialists want us to believe. Of course, the biggest impact will be on the kids and teens that pick up the nuances. “Oh commies aren’t bad, they are people just like us. We shouldn’t hate them, mommy”.
So no I won’t watch this show. It sounds like a vehicle to get people to subconsiously accept socialism.
I was raised on Roy Rodgers and other stalwart TV role models. Think back to when those shows were new. Now imagine in that time, Hollywood puts out a show all about cattle rustlers or robber barons. The show would have flopped then because there is NO WAY any US audience would have accepted it or identified with the evil protagonists.
We have fallen so far as a nation and become so morally relativistic, that as a society we now accept these shows like Amerikans about the lives of commie spies, or Breaking Bad and Weeds, about drug dealers.
Until the 1970s, such shows would be impossible in America because the people would have demanded protagonists be moral and good and evil characters always die or end up in jail.
Not anymore. We lost the population in the grade school brainwashing post 60s.
Nope, I won’t watch a show where the “good guys” are commie spies and the show will be chock full of subtle propaganda espousing the upside of communism.
Looks like a well done show the way GLEE is a very well done show.
How about a well done show about a boy scout troop leader trying to keep his scouts morally sound in today’s depraved cultural climate? I’m waiting for Hollywood to put out that show.
Thanks but no thanks. Thank goodness for Netflix. I just finished watching every episode of Frasier. Now I’m watching reruns of Dallas, Moonlighting, and Hill Street Blues.
“I just finished watching every episode of Frasier.”
I had to contradict, if I may. I know Glee is just a bunch of faggots singing, and we all know that. But Niles in real life, is a fudgepacker. Sure, Kelsey Grammer is one of us but the fact that Niles is a real-life homo, well...
I miss Jack Bauer and CTU fighting the Muzzies on 24.
Hard to believe it’s been 3 years since the show ended.
Agreed. Good analysis. I’ll keep watching it for a few weeks to see where it goes.
We just finished watching the complete series of “24” on Netflix. Have to say I liked the earlier seasons better. This last one was too disjointed and a lot of loose ends.
Whoops, i slipped back into 40's and 50's mode...
Seems as though it's pure revisionism in assigning some small semblance of decent civilization to these commie scum.
Reminds me of the way the movies of the 50's and 60's reinvented the American Indians of the 1700's & 1800's.
This seems prefigured in that the show's creator -- a retired CIA officer turned scriptwriter -- had the KGB section in the Soviet embassy (the official rezidentura) contact the Jennings, even though Soviet tradecraft was to run their officers posted abroad as illegals with separate personnel, lines of communication, and a strict avoidance of the embassy.
Now, the FBI is on the Jennings' trail through a forced recruitment of a Soviet embassy clerk -- performed no less by the Jennings' new neighbor -- who, by pure coincidence, is a talented, energetic, and vigilant FBI agent newly assigned to counter-intelligence and relocated to Washington.
I am pleased though to see that the separate KGB hierarchy for illegals is nevertheless indicated and that it is now personified by the superb Marge Martindale. She had a memorable role recently on Justified as Kentucky coal country crime boss Mags Bennett.
The ruthlessness of the Soviets was demonstrated again in the last episode. Martindale spun a fairy tale to Robert's Puerto Rican widow of a relocation to sunny and congenial Cuba -- but the hapless and trusting woman is later shown to have been murdered, with their infant son repatriated to the USSR to be raised by Robert's parents.
Although the Jennings are shown sympathetically, there can be little doubt for viewers that they are serving evil masters. Martindale will almost certainly be a continuing character and will do a superb job of combining sinister conduct with a superficially sweet appearance and manner.
Thus, although the Cold War FBI is shown as tough, it does not wantonly kill people as the Soviets do. And another good point for conservatives is that the Reagan administration is shown as determined to beat the USSR in the Cold War and as taking Soviet espionage as the deadly menace that it was. That stirs recollections of a bygone era in which American presidents were, well, vigorously pro-American.
THere are only 2 gay characters on Glee that are main characters, Kurt and Blaine. Every other main charater is hetero, except for Britney, who is probably bi-sexual, and currently dating a guy.
KGB recruiting Black radicals, they are really going for realism.
Soviets thought Haig was trying to stage a coup! Sounds like more realism!
I would like to see a remake of “Telefon” with Keri Russell playing Lee Remick’s part as Barbara (she looks just like her) and Jason Statham playing Major Grigori Borzov. Hans Zimmer can do the soundtrack, Michael Kaplan the costumes, and I can write the screenplay.
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