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Gun Rights: Are There Any Peaceful Solutions Left?
Alt-Market ^ | 02/15/2013 | Brandon Smith

Posted on 02/16/2013 2:36:55 PM PST by Rusty0604

No revolution for good ever begins with "majority support". Each is fought by a minority of strong willed and aware individuals. When all other methods of protest have been dismantled, the system leaves us with only two options: stand and fight, or kneel and beg for mercy. All you need to know is what YOU would do when faced with that choice.

There is no other culture on earth that has the capacity, like Americans currently do, to defeat centralists, defend individual liberty, and end the pursuit of total global power in this lifetime. We are the first and last line. If freedom is undone here, it is undone everywhere for generations to come. This is our responsibility. This is our providence. There can be no complacency. There can be no compromise. There can be no fear. It ends on this ground. One way, or another…

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KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; gunrights; secondamendment
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To: Renegade

Well, I get your math, but that only holds up if the odds are even. We outnumber then not less than 15 to 1. If they come for me specifically I am outta here. There is no way to defeat an organized force like that. However, in general, we can defeat them. Observe, Orient, Decide, Act.


21 posted on 02/16/2013 4:44:48 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Rusty0604
Gun Rights: Are There Any Peaceful Solutions Left?

Sure. Repeal the 1934 Firearms Act, the 1968 Firearms Act, the 1986 Firearms Act and all of the rest of the restrictions on types of firearms and firearms accessories. No negotiations on any of that.

22 posted on 02/16/2013 4:50:25 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Rusty0604

only a third of the colonists fought in RWI. a third were indifferent, a third were sympathetic to the crown.


23 posted on 02/16/2013 4:58:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Rusty0604

The peaceful and most logical solution is for every liberal/progerssive to go out to the garage and hang themselves.


24 posted on 02/16/2013 4:59:27 PM PST by Lockbar (Quality Factory Loaded Ammunition ------- The New Gold)
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To: Rusty0604
Bingo! The left has been trying to provoke a violent reaction from the right since the early '90s and nothing that they can credibly hang on ordinary right-leaning citizens has manifested. McVeigh was a kook and a closer look at him reveals ties to muzzies and the FedMob so they don't want to push that. Ruby Ridge was small, very isolated and similarly looks worse for the FedMob if you scratch beneath the MSM propaganda.

They haven't been able to do it because that's not what conservatives or conservatism is about. Hold fast! Force them to make the first bold offensive moves.

25 posted on 02/16/2013 5:02:32 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Noumenon

If that’s what is required, then so be it.


26 posted on 02/16/2013 5:12:10 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: RugerMini14

Truth of the matter is that the manufacturing of a crisis began in Arizona with Jared Lee Loughner, moved to Aurora Colorado with OWS member James Holmes and then to Newtown Connecticut and Adam Lanz.

How did these people obtain their weapons? Who guided and aided them? Who provided their training?

The same people that gave us Operation Fast & Furious?

I believe that there are some serious questions that demand some serious answers.

Just keep in mind that the same people that are attacking our Constitutional liberties and freedom are the very same people that hold the ideas that (1) “the ends justify the means” and (2) “You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.” - Rahm Emanuel.


27 posted on 02/16/2013 5:23:28 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
only a third of the colonists fought in RWI. a third were indifferent, a third were sympathetic to the crown.

Actually, far fewer than a third of the colonists actually raised a gun in anger at the British in the Revolution. It was closer to 3% who did the fighting and dying in that war.

It's generally understood that a third of the colonists supported the revolution, while the other two thirds were split between indifference, and support of the Crown.

28 posted on 02/16/2013 5:27:18 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TigersEye
The left has been trying to provoke a violent reaction from the right since the early '90s and nothing that they can credibly hang on ordinary right-leaning citizens has manifested.

The left has pushed for a violent reaction from the right, out of a desperate and misguided belief, that if they can get us to snap, that the federal leviathan will descend from on high and crush us (once and for all).

It's a fool's fantasy. If they had any wits about them, they'd be walking on eggshells, hoping that we don't lose our cool. They'd never survive the resulting conflagration. Neither would the traitor 'government'.

29 posted on 02/16/2013 5:33:05 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Rusty0604

“We have a weapon more powerful… than any in the whole arsenal of the British Empire! That weapon… is our refusal!” - Michael Collins


30 posted on 02/16/2013 5:39:51 PM PST by Lexington Green (Keeping it real is keeping you down, Fool.)
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To: Howie66
More like Anti-Liberty Leftists.

Or better yet, a word that’ being bandied about these days:

Proppressives (Pro + oppressive, meaning in favor of oppressive, unlimited government)

31 posted on 02/16/2013 6:06:04 PM PST by Voice of Reason1 (Absolute power corrupts absolutely Lord Acton 1887)
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To: TigersEye

Ruby Ridge was no violent reaction from the right.


32 posted on 02/16/2013 6:07:18 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Can’t kneel. Bad knees.

Molon labe b*tches...

Surrender your anti-freedom agenda or prepare to bleed for it.


33 posted on 02/16/2013 6:14:38 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: demshateGod

I used to use this argument with some lbs in CA; the federal gov’t should only take money from citizens of CA for defense and other constitutional expenses. You shouldn’t have to beg for funds for the State that were in part paid into by the citizens of this State. Some of the libs actually thought about it, maybe some conservatives will too.


34 posted on 02/16/2013 6:15:25 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

That was the point of all of my examples. Neither was what McVeigh did.


35 posted on 02/16/2013 6:20:16 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Rusty0604

Of course, there is a peaceful solution. Right after the great cleansing, there will be peace!!


36 posted on 02/16/2013 6:21:32 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Rusty0604

Are we close to holding a Constitutional Convention yet, or are people still worried that a Convention will take away their RKBA? For my part, we still have at least on peaceful option left and we are obligated to discuss it. And know that the more serious the discussion about a Convention becomes and the more people join in, the more frantic it will make the left. And keep in mind that whatever a Convention passes must also be ratified by a super-majority of the surviving states.


37 posted on 02/16/2013 6:31:32 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat
Are we close to holding a Constitutional Convention yet, or are people still worried that a Convention will take away their RKBA? For my part, we still have at least on peaceful option left and we are obligated to discuss it. And know that the more serious the discussion about a Convention becomes and the more people join in, the more frantic it will make the left. And keep in mind that whatever a Convention passes must also be ratified by a super-majority of the surviving states.

My problem with a constitutional convention is that that is intended to be a solution for a failing constitution. There is nothing wrong with the constitution itself, it is that the government no longer obeys it. A convention is not necessary if we don't need to change it.

38 posted on 02/16/2013 10:38:08 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Rusty0604

From the article: The Founding Fathers went through steps very similar to those I listed above and more to counter the tightening grip of the British Empire during the first American Revolution. The idea is simple:

Peacefully deny the corrupt system’s authority over your life by supplying your own needs and your own security, rather than lashing out blindly. Force them to show their true colors. Expose their dishonor and maliciousness. Make them come after you like the predators they are, and then, once they can no longer play the role of the “defending hero” in the eyes of the public, use your right to self defense to send them a message they won’t forget.
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Only one problem....this time around the “media” is on the other side


39 posted on 02/16/2013 11:13:17 PM PST by RBK
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To: CodeToad

On your way “outta there” don’t forget to leave behind some surprises.


40 posted on 02/17/2013 3:23:02 AM PST by Renegade
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