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AR-15: Assemble your own by buying Upper Receiver, Lower Receiver/Buttstock separately ADVICE
2/28/2013

Posted on 02/28/2013 3:00:27 PM PST by RoosterRedux

I have had a Windham Weaponry AR-15 on order with an old friend who has a gun shop but prospects are looking slim.

You can buy an Upper Receiver direct from Windham (shipment on delay, but not out of stock).

Is it possible to buy an Upper from Windham and a Lower Receiver and Buttstock (I like the Magpul) from another manufacturer and supplier and simply assemble the pieces or is that impossible?


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1 posted on 02/28/2013 3:00:37 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Bump for later.


2 posted on 02/28/2013 3:02:09 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: RoosterRedux

All AR parts are universally interchangeable. Go for it.


3 posted on 02/28/2013 3:05:30 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: RoosterRedux

The lower receiver is the serialized part that has to come through an FFL. The rest can be purchased/made/scrounged whatever.

Yes you can buy all the parts sparately and assemble your own.

Just do a search or visit AR15.com


4 posted on 02/28/2013 3:07:20 PM PST by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Sure it is possible. Lots of people have done it. Some, who have 3D printers are even printing out the lower receiver and adding all the parts to make the rifle.

3D printed AR15 3rd Generation Ready for Download (600 rds, no wear)

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/02/3d-printed-ar15-3rd-generation-ready.html

5 posted on 02/28/2013 3:07:26 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: RoosterRedux

I have a DelTon lower bought from them and shipped to my FFL, completed the build with all DPMS parts (complete upper, buttstock, lower parts kit) from Midway USA. The problem you’re going to have right now is finding the lower receiver (from anyone, let alone DelTon) and parts kits.


6 posted on 02/28/2013 3:07:43 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: fwdude

Yup, mix n match uppers and lowers at will. (just don’t shoot Will)


7 posted on 02/28/2013 3:08:05 PM PST by umgud
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To: fwdude

That’s what I thought but needed to get advice so that I don’t make my usual mistake of jumping before looking carefully.;-)


8 posted on 02/28/2013 3:08:35 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: RoosterRedux

80% lowers. Go from there.


9 posted on 02/28/2013 3:10:51 PM PST by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Ruger Upper for only $1,300.00!!!! Dang, that's expensive. http://grabagun.com/ruger-upper-only-sr-556-5-56mm.html
10 posted on 02/28/2013 3:11:12 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: RoosterRedux

Or you could buy a 3D printer and make your own lower receivers.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2991782/posts


11 posted on 02/28/2013 3:11:39 PM PST by Hugin
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To: IYAS9YAS; RoosterRedux
The problem you’re going to have right now is finding the lower receiver (from anyone, let alone DelTon) and parts kits.

Apparently, there are lowers out there again. I just did a Bing search on ar-15 lower and got three sites selling them. Their prices range from low $200s and up.

Never heard of this place, but they have several in stock. http://www.carricozarmory.com/lowers.htm

12 posted on 02/28/2013 3:11:55 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I splurged and bought local: LaRue Tactical upper for around $1,100 3 years ago. I’m sure they’re more like $1800 today. Can’t find a nicer piece of workmanship.


13 posted on 02/28/2013 3:15:20 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

And LaRue tactical is one of the gun makers who are sticking it to the Marxist anti-2nd amendment states.


14 posted on 02/28/2013 3:17:13 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Rule number one never talk about “Gun Club”


15 posted on 02/28/2013 3:21:19 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: fwdude

I guess 1300 for a Ruger upper isn’t bad then.. Just thought I’d link it. I cannot afford it. lol


16 posted on 02/28/2013 3:21:28 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Jagdgewehr

Bought 2 80% before sandy hook. Thank god.
Now they’re dam near impossible to come by.


17 posted on 02/28/2013 3:22:01 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: SolidRedState

Actually, you can make a lower receiver. The only caveat is that the weapon has to be for personal use. As I understand it, no documentation is required.


18 posted on 02/28/2013 3:23:21 PM PST by LouD
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Ruger Upper for only $1,300.00!!!! Dang, that's expensive.

That's a well thought-out and executed piston style upper; it was pretty pricey even before the madness hit.

19 posted on 02/28/2013 3:25:01 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Jagdgewehr
Have you finished an 80% lower? Did you buy the milling equipment or did you find someone who owned it?

Tell us about it.

20 posted on 02/28/2013 3:32:18 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: RoosterRedux

The problem is not ability, but supply. It’s tough to get some of the bits and pieces; could take months to gather everything.

Also, check your private messages.


21 posted on 02/28/2013 3:36:53 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: RoosterRedux

Curious if anyone’s found an “affordable” (I realize that’s a relative term since Sandy Hook) source for decent barrels. That seems to be the single largest expense putting an AR together.


22 posted on 02/28/2013 3:44:42 PM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: RoosterRedux

It’s so easy a metrosexual caveman can do it.


23 posted on 02/28/2013 3:47:21 PM PST by NY Cajun
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To: RoosterRedux

A couple of sites that have instructional videos you will find very useful – the first one is especially useful in that is has a series of short instructional videos of the whole assembly process.

How to Build An AR-15 Video
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=11004/guntechdetail/How_to_Build_An_AR-15_Video

Build Your Own Custom AR-15: Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfH9sRLdRwc&feature=player_detailpage


24 posted on 02/28/2013 3:49:00 PM PST by Voice of Reason1 (Absolute power corrupts absolutely Lord Acton 1887)
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To: RoosterRedux

Yes, AR parts are interchangeable. But keep one thing in mind, viz. if you ever want to sell your piecemeal AR (in a normal economy), make sure your frankenAR is assembled with brand name recognizable components. I notice that such weapons on Armslist, etc, don’t get sold as well as others.


25 posted on 02/28/2013 3:56:55 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: fwdude
All AR parts are universally interchangeable.

With the exception of Colt and their idiot large pin receivers. But that only affects the trigger group I believe. Eithe rpin size is readkily available, so no worries there. No one buy Colt lowers anyway.

This is all true for the small caliber (.223/5.56 NATO) AR series. When you get into the big stuf (.308/7.62 NATO) things get a bit murkier but still manageable.

26 posted on 02/28/2013 4:05:36 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: RoosterRedux

I’m thinking about doing this. I might buy a complete rifle if I can get the right price. If not, I’m going to build one. There are a lot of videos on YouTube on how to do this. Anyone can do it with just a few tools.

Don’t pay what people asking for stripped lowers right now. I think they’ll be available for regular prices soon. I’ve been watching “slick guns” and they show up on there from time to time. There was a PSA lower for 119.00 yesterday but they sold out as I was putting my CC info in.


27 posted on 02/28/2013 4:19:05 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

No way! There’s no way to buy them. The site is a tease!


28 posted on 02/28/2013 4:22:21 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: RoosterRedux

As long as the front and rear takedown pins match on the top and bottom receivers, you’re good.

There are “large pin” and “small pin” lower receivers, but if the pin diameters for the hammer and trigger are different, that’s shouldn’t have any bearing on the upper receiver.

Where you find a difference between uppers and lowers from different manufactures is in the AR-10/LR-308 product space. AR-10 lowers accept only AR-10 uppers, and LR-308 lowers can take many different uppers (that are compatible with LR-308 lowers). If you’re ever looking at building a .308 AR, I’d recommend you look strongly at the LR-308 (ie, DPMS) design, not the Armalite AR-10 design.

Where you need to exercise some caution is in the area of bolts and barrel extensions, since that’s where the headspace issue comes to bear. But most people don’t put on their own barrel extension (if you do, follow the torque specs of 150 ft-lbs for how firmly you torque on the extension onto the barrel) and check the bolt for headspace with a “go” gage.


29 posted on 02/28/2013 4:33:43 PM PST by NVDave
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To: RoosterRedux

Lots of luck finding a stripped lower anywhere.

If you do, lower parts kits and bolt carrier assemblies are also impossible to find.

I doubt that Windham Weapondry has many full uppers avilable right now, either.

Your best bet is to continue to stay on your gun shop buddy’s good side.


30 posted on 02/28/2013 4:34:13 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Charles Martel
Thx. I did check my messages and am checking into that.

And thx for your good work at Poitiers a few years back...sure saved our derrieres.;-)

31 posted on 02/28/2013 4:48:03 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: fwdude; RoosterRedux
All AR parts are universally interchangeable.

Not quite. I've made my own from kits, but there are issues with fit. Not usually bad, but you will often get less than a tight fit of upper and lower.

This is fixable by:
1. not carring about accuracy.
2. fitting a shim in front of the mag well
3. using an oversized or sleeve shimmed pin
4. redrilling the hinge pin holes and using an oversized pin

I have found #2 to be cheap and easy.

32 posted on 02/28/2013 5:11:02 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Check out AR15.com for anything and everything about building your own.

Also check out Palmetto State Armory. They sell everything and are very reasonably priced. I bought a complete upper and their lower parts kit for my carbine. Their cold hammer forged barrels are made by FN.


33 posted on 02/28/2013 5:37:22 PM PST by scramjet (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.)
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To: LouD

Actually, you can make a lower receiver.

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Well, maybe YOU and others can MAKE a lower receiver...

LOL


34 posted on 02/28/2013 5:53:03 PM PST by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America; All

That tells me that Grab a Gun is gouging. Ruger will sell ya the whole damned gun for $1375.00. Go figure.


35 posted on 02/28/2013 5:53:22 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: SolidRedState

all this talk about upper receivers, lower receivers and buttstocks is starting to sound really gay.

//sarcasm


36 posted on 02/28/2013 5:54:26 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL; All
I just ordered an SSR-556 Ruger from Budsgunshop (with whom I have had much success).

It was expensive, but I own Rugers and have studied the SSR-556. I trust Ruger.

37 posted on 02/28/2013 5:59:41 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: RoosterRedux

I think my stupid joke killed the thread


38 posted on 02/28/2013 6:16:31 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
LOL...your comment was sent to Obama and he will pick up the slack!;-)

He's probably sexting Reggie right now...telling him to head over to FR.

I'll bet Reggie's Secret Service nickname is "Buttstock."

39 posted on 02/28/2013 6:28:39 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: SolidRedState

My understanding is that there is now law preventing anyone from manufacturing their own gun, including the lower receiver, from scratch. (No numbers needed)


40 posted on 02/28/2013 6:44:08 PM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Have you finished an 80% lower? Did you buy the milling equipment or did you find someone who owned it?

You don't need a CNC mill. You need to buy (or borrow) a jig:

http://www.cncguns.com/projects/ar15lower80tutorial-1.html

The rest comes from your local Home Depot. You don't even need to own the drill press (though it's handy) - there are often places where you can come and work for an hour for a small fee (or for a unit of beer.)

41 posted on 02/28/2013 6:54:25 PM PST by Greysard
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To: HMS Surprise

My understanding is that there is now law preventing anyone from manufacturing their own gun, including the lower receiver, from scratch. (No numbers needed)

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That would be hard to enforce.


42 posted on 02/28/2013 7:03:17 PM PST by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: demshateGod
No way! There’s no way to buy them. The site is a tease!

Hmm. You're right. Sorry, I should have looked closer before linking.

This may work: http://www.impactguns.com/ar15-lowers.aspx

It appears they may have two lowers available, both over $300, though.

43 posted on 02/28/2013 7:06:56 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Greysard
Out of frustration, I order a Ruger SR 556. I have had a long history with Ruger and its general nature.

Hoping for the best!

44 posted on 02/28/2013 7:08:50 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Colt Ar’s don’t play well with others. Different sized pins.


45 posted on 02/28/2013 7:11:08 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: SolidRedState

No, there isn’t, unless it’s a state law.


46 posted on 03/01/2013 1:51:43 AM PST by NVDave
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To: IYAS9YAS

I got 3 emails in two days from Delton saying their lowers were available for 120.00. Sold out before I could finish the order. Slick Guns had PSA lowers for 119.00 in-stock. They sold out within 30 minutes. But things are becoming available. I’m sure I can get one for under 150.


47 posted on 03/01/2013 4:20:01 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Jagdgewehr; RoosterRedux
80% lowers. Go from there.

You can of course. But I started from a 0% lower forging, and the result works just fine. My next one will have the magazine well left solid, for use with a .50 BMG upper receiver.

info *here*


48 posted on 03/01/2013 1:48:58 PM PST by archy
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To: LouAvul
if you ever want to sell your piecemeal AR

I have an M-1 Garand that I was trying to find the value of since I was thinking about selling it.

I talked to a guy who used to collect them, gave him all the markings on all the parts and stock and everything was going great until he asked about the markings on the rear barrel. When I gave him that info, he said that devalued the worth of the Garand considerably and that If I really wanted to get rid of it for the money that I should consider selling the parts individually......

49 posted on 03/01/2013 2:10:36 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (God bless you Tommy and thank you for your service: http://swiftboats.org/tribute/tribute.html)
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