Posted on 03/01/2013 7:17:13 AM PST by pgkdan
I am not giving you a sob story just a little reality. Again if they would cut 20 percent on welfare and food stamps and unemployment, I would not complain a minute.
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I am sorry, but actually I am NOT trying to ‘bust your b@ll$’.
That is point I was trying to make - the cuts.
OBama runs around the country (ON OUR DIME) and is implying that EACH organization will have a Draconian Cut.
We know that isn’t true BUT no one will ‘listen’ to us. And he is going around stirring up the mob.
No matter what the ‘final cut’ is be it 20 dollars or 20 million dollars, if a hurricane/tornado/blizzard etc sneaks in it will because us “Evil R’s” forced all these people out of work.
I think ‘we’ got our nose under the tent will this “Woodward” debacle - PEOPLE will listen to him, if for nothing else, the LIBS have been making him look like a hero and kept him on a pedestal. With ‘their’ check being a little short at the beginning of the year and any cuts coming up at least the WORKING CLASS will be spreading the word. The Leach Class will see nothing but we know TSWHTF if their FREE cell phones start drying up, EBT cards have a problem etc...
Did your USN retirement pay start at discharge or do you have to wait?- I know they tried to mess with that a few years back...using the old ‘trick’ I worked at the Pentagon for DOD and did the same work as the soldiers and sailors around me and they get their retirement at 20 YRS and I have to wait till 62 or 65. It isn’t fair.
Then with virtually NO Military in the Fed etc ‘we’ don’t get any backing and not many stand up and say HEY that Marine was getting shot at on a continuing basis and the only problem you had was your bus being late or no parking spot. NO GDit, you DIDN’T do the SAME job...but if WE don’t say it, no one will.
I wish you the best and I honestly wasn’t/aren’t trying to bust your gonads....
As a people, we have grown weak, and refuse to see what is obvious. We will overcome this profligacy or it will overcome us. I think the latter. It is a slow-motion trainwreck that did not have to happen. Liberal shortsightedness coupled with selfishness and a lack of devotion to the people and the Constitution has brought this ruin. I fear there is no escaping what has to come. Having forgotten self-evident Truths and God we are left to ourselves to escape the ruin, and there will be no escaping ourselves.
We need to seriously rethink how we have been running the business.
I guess the irony is that defense and aerospace industry can play a part in spurring economic growth. Much like it did during WWII and innovations such as the Internet and ICs.
“Go to community college, learn a trade.”
Remember that flippant little gem from President Bush? Of course not, it didn’t apply to you. That was the advice offered to the private sector unemployed as a result of trade policy and offshoring.
So, get hopping. It’s pretty cheap. You’ve got some free time.
“Important point: we can’t afford it any more.”
On that point we can agree.
The United States has to come to a decision regarding defense. If it wants to remain a world superpower then it is going to have to spend alot of money on defense and will have to cut heavier in other places. The capabilities of our adversaries are constantly improving and it costs money for us to stay ahead. Many of the weapon systems we are designing today aren’t for tomorrow...they are for five-ten years from now when the dynamic of the physical and technological battlefields will be much different. That having been said, cutting defense isn’t an all or nothing proposition. There is some waste and useless redundancy that needs to be trimmed. However, cutting engineers, logisticians, depot maintainers, supply management and other support personnel isn’t a very smart way of doing things in my opinion.
If the United States is comfortable with decline into being just “another country” with little international influence (other than economic) thus allowing China to become the primary world superpower, then defense cuts are a good way to trim expenses.
It is a decision that we have to come to grips with.
“Remember they used to say ‘NON essential personnel’ need not report tomorrow, people would come out of the woodwork and even off sick leave to show up for work LEST someone figured non essential meant they were, in fact, not essential.”
I think people have misunderstanding of what the DOD considers “essential” and non-essential” positions.
Essential positions generally are those that are required for physical security and operations of a facility or mission.
Non-essential is everyone else, no matter what their job is.
For instance a depot maintainer (the guy or girl who actually repairs the military equipment at depots so it can be returned to use) is usually considered non-essential. Are they important to the mission of DOD ???? Heck yea they are. If they don’t work, equipment doesn’t get repaired. Some in the public however think that because they are non-essential, they aren’t really important. Essential and non-essential designations can really be misleading if you don’t know how the categories are broken out.
The US will have economic collapse before the tough decisions are made. Too many promises have been made to the masses. A brand new promise — Obamacare. Once Obamacare gets established, it will be impossible to get rid of it. And it will be another slush fund like social security.
Unfortunately, many Americans don't see the benefits of a strong defense. American’s memories are too short and we have already forgotten 9/11. Defense will be the first to be cut.
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