Posted on 03/11/2013 8:01:46 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Nope they knew they were lying to the public- but I’ve said it right along- truth doesn’t mean a thing to the left anymore- they no longer even care if they get caught in a flat out lie- they just ignore the condemnations and plod right along doing whatever the hell they wish to do- even goign so far as to propgandize you8ng kids despite their informaiton being nothign but lies- They are ILLEGALLY takign hard earned money from hard working peopel to ‘pay for’ a ‘problem’ that isn’t a problem caused by man- And they are doing so by intnetionally abusing and misrepresenting the evidence- even goign so far as to lie abotu glacial melt i nthe himalayas- and leaving out damning coutner evidence such as CO2 rising 100 years AFTER the earth warms- NOT before it warmed- Warmign causes a rise in CO2 NOT the other way around- and they know this damn well- yet they refuse to teach the truth to the most vulnerable and easily influenced of society- our kids-
Their ice core sampling is a stinkin joke- and they know this too- they know the problems with it- yet they continue spouting off ‘facts’ that are simply untrue even accordign to their own testing methods-
I ran a blog for years about the lies the left is foisting on us, and was in touch with Marc Morano whio was assistant to James Inhoffe- and he has a bunch of facts that absolutely flat out refute everythign the left is saying- but sadly the main stream media has succeeded in labelling him a ‘warming denier’ (When Marc has said over and over he does NOT deny warming- He only denies that man had ANY hand in it and hsowed by the FACTS that man is not the cause)
The left IS winning this war- they are foisting hteir lies on us, and America just eats it up unfortunately- the left has succeeded in foisting a false sense of ‘American guilt’ on the public and made them think the world’s ills are all our faults and that we must ‘atone for our enviro sins’ and the peopel are buying it hook line and sinker- apparently because it makes them feel good when they seperate paper from plastic and only flush hteir toilets once a day
Uh, no. For quite some time the Nile even flowed west to the Atlantic out the mouth of what is now the Niger (ground penetrating radar from the Shuttle exposed the connecting channel McCauley, 1982). At that time, Lake Chad was the size of the Caspian Sea.
There was a time earlier in its history that what is now the Nile had a canyon deeper than the Grand Canyon. When the Mediterranean flooded, that canyon became a sea inlet (from fossil remains drilled in the current channel). There may have been a geophysical volcanic event near the Bayuda Volcanic Field that diverted it back into where it runs today.
Unfortunately, the paper I'm citing is on JSTOR, so there's no copy directly available online.
Do you have approximate dates on some of this information? 1) When Nile flowed out of the Niger? 2) When Lake Chad was the size of the Caspian Sea? 3) When the Med. flooded creating a Nile sea inlet? 4) When the geophysical even near the Bayuda Volcanic Field may have occurred?
Somewhere deep in my files I do, and because the study was published in 1982, I would assume at least some of those estimates have been updated.
How badly do you need this information?
History, technically speaking, means recorded human history, so in practical terms, I was talking about stone age through modern Egypt, at least prior to the Aswan dam.
I found the file. The capture of the White Nile into what is now the Nile was in approximately 8,000 BC.
That's borderline "history."
My source is:
It still returns to my original point, that for the vast majority of the rise of Egypt as a civilization, the Nile provided an annual flood, which was followed by a single harvest.
This necessitated food storage for the rest of the year, but if it was a successful harvest, also meant that the rest of the year could be used for other things.
However, if in the early part of their rise, there was warmer, wetter conditions, caused by global warming, it might have given them a smaller, secondary growing season, and a food surplus that could be sold, bringing in great wealth.
Yet with the onset of cooler weather, there would be no extra rainfall, and the land outside of the Nile flood region would dry out.
“By 7,000 years ago (5000 B.C.) and lasting for about four millenniums, the earth was warmer than today, perhaps by 4 degrees Fahrenheit... Although the climate cooled a bit after 3000 B.C., it stayed relatively warmer than the modern world until sometime after 1000 B.C., when chilly temperatures became more common.” - Stanford
This is a bigger point that I'm making than you realize. If you look at the Sphinx, the base of it has WATER erosion, not wind erosion. At that time, the Nile Valley was surrounded by a mesic savannah. The desertification that commenced soon after the Nile Valley civilization began was, in my opinion, the result of the people of the valley assimilating the shepherd culture of the Sahel savannah thereabout. It was that demographic shift from pastoral to agro-urban culture that made Egypt what it became.
That's historic my FRiend. More I can't tell you until I publish.
I'll get to cause and effect when I publish.
Researchers are in a state of near panic as their government grants are drying up due to the sequester. Their only hope is to pump out ever more dire predictions of coming doom, in order to push their particular pet project to the top of the priority heap.
Absolutely!
If a book I want on the list,...sounds fascinating...
First time Man REALLY changed his climate environment.
And it wasn't via emitting CO2.
Sounds as if that shift may have occurred at the end of the Younger Dryas, with changed climate conditions.
The last I read about it, that savannah had been grazed continuously for 14,000 years prior, long enough to have endured climate cycles without interruption. Together with the change in albedo resulting from abandonment and an increasingly fungal soil is why I think the anthropogenic attribution as a cause of desertification may have validity.
Climate changed, no doubt, but it may be as an effect, a cause, or both.
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