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To: tiki

I’m just curious about the increase in diabetes. Know quite a few people with it and it is nasty. One woman I know has lost a leg, another woman lost both legs and is going blind. I would think anyone would be interested to know if there is a connection.


12 posted on 03/29/2013 8:03:10 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Perhaps sitting at least eight hours a day has a much more detrimental effect on our health, particularly when considering diabetes and heart disease, than anything we eat.

Sitting all day at a desk and then coming home to sit more hours in font of TV or the computer makes people fat and unhealthy.


58 posted on 03/29/2013 9:50:34 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: ilovesarah2012

I don’t have any of the answers but the link led to an hysterical page that really gave no valid information, just hysteria and fear.

Part of the reason for the diagnosis of adult onset diabetes is that they didn’t diagnose it until the last few generations. Adults died before they got it or they died of diagnosed heart or kidney disease but those diseases were sometimes caused by the diabetes. I would say that a lot of it is caused by obesity and lack of exercise. We have sedentary lifestyles, we aren’t out hunting for our meat and foraging for our grains. We are sitting here browsing the internet. We are living longer.

It is just like ADHD, autism, learning disabilities, I can pick out kids that I went to school with that would have fit in any of the categories that they are now diagnosing but didn’t in the ‘60s.

They didn’t discover insulin until like 1920 and then it took a lot to make it. I have to assume that only those who had extreme symptoms could get it until they synthesised it. People just died and they often didn’t know why.

I will use the example of a young boy I know with Juvenile Diabetes. He seemed to be a healthy kid, his father got him up , they got in the shower and he just limply leaned against his father, he tried to get him to wake up and he wouldn’t. He threw him in the car and took him to the hospital where he was diagnosed. Just a few minutes more and the child would have died. In my generation they might have buried the child and wondered what happened forever.

Just 20 years ago a diagnosis on an adult with diabetes may have been missed for quite sometime, now it is one of the first tests they do if there are any indications. My son passed out once because of heat exhaustion and they gave him a diabetes test after treating him for the heat exhaustion, that wouldn’t have happened in my generation. My own father was diagnosed with adult onset diabetes and I’m pretty sure he had little corn sugar because it wasn’t as popular an ingredient until late in my generation.

So, in short, while there may be more diabetes because of our lifestyles the real reason they diagnose more diabetes is that the medical community is aware that it could be a problem.

Even with high fructose corn syrup our life expentancy has risen 27 years since 1930 and we are still going up. I attribute that to the fact that we have good food and lots of it and modern medicine.

I think the fear that these stories try to generate are more harmful than the products that they are warning you about.


64 posted on 03/29/2013 10:21:56 AM PDT by tiki
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To: ilovesarah2012

To put it simply, in my anecdotal observation it is fat around the middle. I started noticing this about 10 years ago when I saw a sign on the Cherokee reservation about the insane rates of diabetes. I just started looking around it is how they are built.

Around here it is Mexicans, I hardly know an adult Mexican who doesn’t have diabetes and they, being Spanish and American Indian are often built just like the Cherokee and the the Navaho.

Another reason is meth, I don’t know anyone who has done meth for a long period who doesn’t have diabetes. And, yes, unfortunately, I know too many of them.


70 posted on 03/29/2013 10:50:59 AM PDT by tiki
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