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To: dr_lew

You misapprehended the purpose of my comments. Prior comments neglested a number of factors that need to be addressed when talking about the “spaghettification” of the hapless astronaut. One of these factors is the effects of time dilation, special relativity, and general relativity in the presence of extraordinary gravitational fields. Another fact that did not receive enough consideration is the mass of the black hole. Everyone assumes, erroneously, that tidal forces must always disintegrate the hapless astronaut during the approach to the event horizon and before passing through the event horizon. This assumption holds true in the case of a static and non-charged singularity less than about 8 Solar masses. It is, however, quite untrue when considering a static and uncharged sigularity of 1,000 and greater Solar masses. In the case of such a larger singularity, the hapless astronaut can actually pass through the event horizon without noticing any differences in his body, until his body is suddeenly disintegrated about 7 secnds later and farther into the event horizon.

The assumptions may change in some cases and not in others with real singularities, because real singularities have phenomenonally high rotational speeds instead of being static. They also are highly charged, which makes them game changers under speecial circumstances. Although in the vast number of scenarios the hapless astronaut quickly suffers a fatal destiny no matter how fortunate in passing through the event horizon, blueshifted radiation for one example, some theorists still hold out some hope for defining a scenario for the astronaut’s survival in an Einstein-Rosen Bridge (wormhole) through the singularity. At that point I will stop, because all of this is of course highly speculative no matter whose physics is being used to support an argument. Sufficee it to note that these thought experiments are rife with unknowns which make any attempt to make pat conclusons perhaps untenable.


23 posted on 04/07/2013 9:07:38 PM PDT by WhiskeyX (The answer is very simple and easy to understand economics. The U.S. Treasury is printing vast)
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To: WhiskeyX
You misapprehended the purpose of my comments.

I guess I could say I had no apprehension of your purpose. I only noticed the error you made in stating that ...

"The reason the astronaut cannot tell thee difference is because he/she is stretched only from the perspective of an eexternal observer. "

This tidal stretching is not associated with crossing the event horizon, as I stated, and is in fact the same thing as the "stretching" of the earth's world ocean in the tidal fields of the moon and the sun, except at much greater magnitude, and hence smaller scale. It is, or would be, a decidedly real phenomenon.

24 posted on 04/09/2013 9:48:06 PM PDT by dr_lew
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