The 17th Amendment and Republican Freedom

To: Political Junkie Too

Man, that was good. It is all possible. We can pull a divide and conquer strategy on them as they continually do to us. I keep going back to Obamacare. It is more unpopular than ever and may be the perfect foil to call for going back to the original structure. More than half of the states formally opposed in court. As for Jim Crow, a history lesson will take care of that . . . if of course, there is time once our backs are against the wall.

I'm reading a Federalist Pamphlet from April 1788. Among other topics, the author spent a page going over the history of English rights and how they were reluctantly granted by Princes. No written constitution of course, but the people carved out rights from a sea of powers belonging to the sovereign, the King. This pamphlet was designed for the average reader of the time and given wide distribution in Virginia. It would flop as a post at FreeRepublic and be derided by any non-conservative as reactionary, irrelevant . . . dead white men, etc. My larger point is that I fear we have become too corrupted to understand what we lost and why we must return to federal and republican government.

41 posted on 04/09/2013 2:34:17 PM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)

Here's another interesting read from 2007 that began with a posting of a WSJ article from James Taranto, The People's Senate. The discussion that followed was very robust.

-PJ

42 posted on 04/10/2013 10:05:04 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)

As horrible as the 17th Amendment is, I think the 16th is worse. it is a tough call as to which sucks more.

43 posted on 04/10/2013 10:08:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)

Yeah, both are stinkaroo. The progs hit us hard a hundred years ago. They unfortunately illustrate the people's confidence in the Framers wasn't that strong, or that they knew better, or just believed Leftist BS fed them. Also, IIRC, there was a lot of hostility built up against the super wealthy “robber barons” and the income tax was sold as a means to screw them.

44 posted on 04/10/2013 1:14:17 PM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)

45 posted on 04/10/2013 1:14:49 PM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)

To: Political Junkie Too

Great post. You beat me by six years. The original WSJ source is inop, but I got the point. You put up better with silly snark than I would have. I was somewhat surprised by the misperceptions of our Framing, . . . House of Lords . . . sheesh.

You may wish to send your links to this Article V conference late this month at http://www.ucfavconference.org/

46 posted on 04/10/2013 1:29:28 PM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)

You put up better with silly snark than I would have.

Yeah. I reread the post from February 2013 between you and the Field Marshal. I think I held my own then, too.

-PJ

47 posted on 04/10/2013 4:36:20 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)

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