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1 posted on 04/11/2013 5:05:59 PM PDT by Chode
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2 posted on 04/11/2013 5:07:10 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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MotoGP @ COTA on Sunday too.


5 posted on 04/11/2013 6:54:40 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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Prease to pronounce collectry: 2013 FOLMURA 1 UBS CHINESE GLAND PLEE - RIVE THLEAD


6 posted on 04/11/2013 6:57:55 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Flow Visualization Paint or Flow-Viz

McLaren using Flow-Viz paint at preseason testing at Jerez 2011

McLaren using Flow-Viz paint at preseason testing at Jerez 2011

 

When McLaren ran “Flow-Viz” paint for first time on their car in testing last year (2010), the F1 world sees it for the first time.  But in fact, teams have been using this solution for years in privacy of their wind tunnels to show surface aerodynamic flows, but this year (2011) even Renault, Lotus, Red Bull  and Ferrari bring it to the track and start to use it openly and a large amount of green, blue or white fluid was splattered all over the cars.

McLaren using Flow-Viz on airscoop at preseason testing at Jerez 2011

But there is no mystery. That was a special liquid placed onto the car to help with the aerodynamics. Engineers know that work in wind tunnel and CFD programs can give you great results, but nothing can compare with real life situation on track. To better understand air flow over aero surfaces in this real life situation, teams employ what is call „Flow-Viz“ paint, or „Flow-Visualization“ paint. Details like direction and attached\non-attached flow can be observed.  But this is only surface airflow and this is not the entire story when it comes to aerodynamics, so “Flow Viz” is only one solution for measuring and observing aero on track.

 

McLaren engeneer applying Flow-Viz paint

McLaren engineer applying Flow-Viz paint on front wing

 

Basically, they put it on, and before it gets chance to dry the car is flying around the circuit.  As it does so, the air flow across the car moves the paint around, where it subsequently dries and shows detailed air flow patterns across the car.  It is to confirm wind tunnel and CFD findings. Formula 1 teams don't like to use this method very often because in this way all other teams can see real situation on your bodywork air flow management. If team have a problem with aerodynamic components, everybody will se it, if there is some secret solution in airflow management, everybody will know it. It's enough to take photos of ones car and analyze it with your aerodynamicist and here you are. Basically, my opinion is that if team resorting to flow visualization paint so openly and in front of so many spying eyes leads me to think they're really having some problems with their aero, or there is some fundamental work to be done for further understanding in aero development.

McLaren during F-Duct testing 2010
McLaren during F-Duct testing 2010. You can clearly see slot in rear wing flap on picture above, and air streams around it.

But what is this paint?

Paraffin-based light solution applied it to the car. The solution is light enough to flow over the car, drying quickly to determine the airflow over the bodywork.
Renault F1 team with Flow-Viz at testing 2011A surface of a component of the car is coated with a pigmented (preferably a contrasting phthalocyanine) or transparent oil based paint of non-gelling characteristics, and with a specific viscosity chosen in way that paint will not spill or move when car is stationary. Sometime, if team need to make longer stint with “Flow-Viz” applied, they can apply additional layer of wetting agent to prevent to fast drying of paint. Particles of a dry phthalocyanine dye are then uniformly sprinkled onto the coating of the paint using a dry brush or an air blower depending on the accessibility of the surfaces under test. Dye particles must be soluble in the oil based paint. Optionally, wetting agent such as Linolic Acid can be applied to ensure cohesion of the oil based paint and dye. After that you need to pass an air flow over the component, mean, you go out and drive your car.Renault F1 2010 with Flow-Viz paint As a flow of air is passed over the solid component, this causes the dye particles to move across the coating of the paint under the influence of the air flow. The dye particles that come into contact with the coating of the paint, dissolve in the same time in the oil as they are moved, to leave a trail on the surface of the coating. This results in a reduction in the size of the particles due to their dissolution. Air flow produces a pattern of contrasting trails on the surface of the coating which permanently records and highlights the fluid flow distribution pattern for later analysis. Comparison of the relative movements of the dye particles provides an indication of the relative strengths of the air flow acting on the surfaces of the component under test. Aerodynamicist can see the contours drawn by the oil on the side-wall of rear wing support or wing element itself. The intense stripes of colored oil behind the wing cascade indicate the zones in which the velocity is higher.

 

Flow-Viz paint test inside Wind Tunnel

 

This happens because the oil, coming from upstream, is feeding the wing element section downstream. In this case the zones painted with a thinner layer of oil represent the zone of lower velocity and the wakes. The clean zone on the forward part of the suction side of the airfoils shows the effect of velocity gradient on the paint path. There the flow accelerates strongly and has an intense transversal component. It is possible to see that, in between the two airfoils, the main stripe of oil draws very clearly the air path.

Looking at the oil stripes on tested elements it is possible to see if they follow trajectory in accordance with the CFD simulations or wind tunnel test.

McLaren 2010 with Flow-Viz paint during F-Duct test

Picture down was taken on Saturday morning practice at Korean Grand Prix 2011 as Ferrari tested its new front wing planed for next season, with a load of aero paint sprayed over it.

Ferrari with flov vis paint at Korea GP 2011

8 posted on 04/11/2013 7:14:43 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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these guys are at the Glen this weekend...

http://www.chumpcar.com/index.php


19 posted on 04/12/2013 9:04:19 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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2013 FORMULA 1 UBS CHINESE GRAND PRIX

Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
1 10 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:35.793 1:35.078 1:34.484 9
2 7 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:37.046 1:35.659 1:34.761 11
3 3 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:36.253 1:35.148 1:34.788 12
4 9 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:35.959 1:35.537 1:34.861 9
5 4 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:35.972 1:35.403 1:34.933 12
6 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:36.929 1:36.065 1:35.364 9
7 19 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:36.993 1:36.258 1:35.998 15
8 5 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.667 1:35.784 2:05.673 12
9 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:36.537 1:35.343 No time 13
10 11 Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1:36.985 1:36.261 No time 11
11 14 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:37.478 1:36.287 9
12 6 Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.952 1:36.314 10
13 15 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:37.349 1:36.405 11
DSQ 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:36.148 1:36.679 6
15 16 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:37.281 1:37.139 10
16 18 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:37.508 1:37.199 12
17 17 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1:37.769 3
18 12 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:37.990 5
19 22 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1:38.780 6
20 23 Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1:39.537 3
21 20 Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1:39.614 6
22 21 Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1:39.660 6
Q1 107% Time 1:42.498

20 posted on 04/13/2013 7:22:28 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Susie Wolff fancies herself as an F1 driver, at 33... please, that'd make her older than all but a handful of driver that have been driving F1 for years! feh
23 posted on 04/13/2013 7:17:02 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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2013 FORMULA 1 UBS CHINESE GRAND PRIX

Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Pts
1 3 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 56 1:36:26.945 3 25
2 7 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 56 +10.1 secs 2 18
3 10 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 56 +12.3 secs 1 15
4 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 56 +12.5 secs 9 12
5 5 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 56 +35.2 secs 8 10
6 4 Felipe Massa Ferrari 56 +40.8 secs 5 8
7 19 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 56 +42.6 secs 7 6
8 14 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 56 +51.0 secs 11 4
9 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 56 +53.4 secs 6 2
10 11 Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 56 +56.5 secs 10 1
11 6 Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 56 +63.8 secs 12
12 18 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 56 +72.6 secs 15
13 17 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 56 +93.8 secs 16
14 16 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 56 +95.4 secs 14
15 22 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 55 +1 Lap 18
16 20 Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 55 +1 Lap 20
17 23 Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 55 +1 Lap 19
18 21 Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 55 +1 Lap 21
Ret 9 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 21 Suspension 4
Ret 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 15 Wheel 22
Ret 15 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 5 Accident 13
Ret 12 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 4 Accident 17

24 posted on 04/14/2013 8:43:02 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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