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Is Tiger Woods facing disqualification at Masters?
CBS Sports ^ | 4-12-13 | Kyle Porter

Posted on 04/12/2013 11:09:13 PM PDT by FlJoePa

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To: FlJoePa

Woods needs to hire Louie Freeh to conduct an internal investigation as to what went wrong with the shot and who is to blame, after which he can self-impose penalties on himself of no new balls for two years, and donate 20% of his winnings to the wounded and aging caddy foundation. Then he will be good to go.


21 posted on 04/13/2013 6:22:31 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: OKRA2012

PGA has nothing to do with The Masters. It’s not a PGA event.


22 posted on 04/13/2013 6:24:27 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: gwjack

Tiger by his own admission broke the rule. He dropped 2 yards from the place he last hit from. He did it to improve the odds on the shot. HE SIGNED AN INCORRECT ACORE.

In this case there is no wiggle room.
( ex rules official)


23 posted on 04/13/2013 6:26:01 AM PDT by BillM (.)
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To: gwjack

The pond on 15 is in no way a lateral hazard.


24 posted on 04/13/2013 6:27:33 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: FlJoePa

Doesnt the rule say you can put it FARTHER away (but not closer)

I dont read it as saying you must put it at the first possible spot, no matter how difficult that shot would be

It is preety vague on purpose where, the only thing is that you cannot move it closer to the hole, it gives leaway only farther away


25 posted on 04/13/2013 6:29:49 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: FlJoePa
Woods apparently didn't choose "a" because two yards (as he said in his post-round interview) isn't "as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played." Although I admit "as nearly as possible" is incredibly vague so I suppose this is still an option for what Woods did.

If it's an option for what he did then just what the ... are you bloviating about????

26 posted on 04/13/2013 6:34:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Sacajaweau
Any class except for baseball is pretty well gone.
Might wanna re-think that baseball stuff.


27 posted on 04/13/2013 6:35:28 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: BillM

Woods entered the tee box at 15 at 5-under and tied for the lead. He played the hole beautifully, laying up his second shot to around 87 yards. He hit a perfect shot onto the green with a 60-degree wedge, a shot that turned out to be a little too perfect. The ball struck the flag pin and bounced back and into the water hazard. The hazard at 15 is a Red Lateral Hazard, which falls under 26-1c of the 2013-1015 USGA Rules and Decisions.

Tiger had several options for continuing play once his ball got wet. He could play the ball from the hazard, replay the shot from the original position incurring a one-point penalty, or he could take straight line from the hole to where the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard and take a drop anywhere behind that point, keeping within that line and incurring a one-point penalty.

In reading the rules it appears that there is a fourth option involving taking a drop on either side of the hazard, taking a drop within two club-lengths of where the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard, but there is some confusion as to whether this would be in play at a Red Lateral, or not.

Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/golf/2013/04/13/2013-masters-tiger-woods-may-face-disqualification-for-incorrect-scorecard/#309qbF9pdr7qlOcC.99
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After the round, Woods said: “I went back to where I played it from, but I went 2 yards further back and I took, tried to take 2 yards off the shot of what I felt I hit.’’

http://espn.go.com/golf/masters13/story/_/id/9167178/2013-masters-tiger-woods-faces-possible-dq-ball-drop

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Tiger has basically said and is on record that he went 2 yrds back from the original spot and dropped. That seems like clear intent to not be as close to the orginal spot as possible.


28 posted on 04/13/2013 6:37:05 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport
To use the option related to the point the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard he would have had to determine that point after it kicked off the flagstick.
29 posted on 04/13/2013 6:45:58 AM PDT by BillM (.)
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To: BillM

You are 100% correct. He played from a wrong place and signed a wrong scorecard. Disqualified.

If Tiger does the right thing and disqualifies himself his standing in the golf world and my own personal opinion would be ‘Bobby Jones like’.

(another ex-rules official)


30 posted on 04/13/2013 7:06:32 AM PDT by 11Bush
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To: BillM

Exactly - and THAT line would be in the woods to his left. The ball most certainly didn’t kick straight backwards towards him. That’s the option he was trying to take, but he effed up point of entry.


31 posted on 04/13/2013 7:08:50 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: 11Bush

Tigger should have been DQ’d. 2 stroke penalty is bs.


32 posted on 04/13/2013 7:10:37 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: Palio di Siena

This is a joke. If he had any class, he’d WD. This will not go over well on that tour. At all.


33 posted on 04/13/2013 7:14:23 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: BillM; Uncle Chip
Lest the shadow of racism hover over our efforts to get to the truth, I consulted Golf Attorney, Algonquin J. Calhoun, Esq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL3nWS1LDIg

Algonquin J. Calhoun, Esq. is the only man who can figure out these difficult situations. I recommend that he be retained immediately by The Tiger.

Tiger has another pal who was a lawyer, a Mr. Obama. Unfortunately, he be disbarred and unable to appear for him in this matter.

34 posted on 04/13/2013 7:16:13 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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To: FlJoePa

Two stroke penalty only. No disqualification.

http://espn.go.com/golf/masters13/story/_/id/9167230/2013-masters-tiger-penalized-2-strokes-ball-drop-15


35 posted on 04/13/2013 7:21:52 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: Mr. K
Doesnt the rule say you can put it FARTHER away (but not closer)

He confused the rule during the heat of the moment. It is where the ball last crossed the hazard line, not where it first crossed the hazard line. After hitting the pin, the ball entered the hazard on the left front of the green. He could of backup as far as he wanted but, likely would have been in the left hand rough.

36 posted on 04/13/2013 7:22:08 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: wolf24

Translation: There are no “rules.”


38 posted on 04/13/2013 7:27:49 AM PDT by abb
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To: wolf24

They could simply call the rule the “star system fudge rule”. Heck, there have been viewers who call in to networks when they see players breaking rules and the PGA takes action.

They didn’t want to throw Tiger Woods out of the Masters. They’d probably do better for themselves in terms of public relations by simply saying what everyone already knows.


39 posted on 04/13/2013 7:28:50 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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