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INVAR: "You being the arbiter of what is criminal and mentally unstable."

Possibly you've heard of "the law" and "the Constitution"?
Those are rules we live under, and if you violate them, you are subject to prescribed punishments, including loss of certain rights, i.e., to "keep and bear arms."

INVAR: "You know, it’s a funny thing - but our Founders were criminals, rebels and terrorists in the eyes of the lawful, legal authority of the Crown and in the eyes of those who supported the tyranny of the Crown."

A small point, but the word "terrorist" in its modern meaning did not exist in those days.
Indeed the first "terror" came during the French Revolution, more that 10 years after our Revolution of 1776.
So our Founders were never considered "terrorists".

Certainly, rebels, insurrectionists and revolutionaries engaged in treason, about which Benjamin Franklin famously said:

"We must all hang together, gentlemen, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."

But none of this happened without major provocations from the Brits, beginning with "taxation without representation," and culminating in the British assault on American militia at Lexington and Concord in 1775.

So, after years of patient attempts at negotiations, when our Founders finally sat down to write up their Declaration of Independence, they had a long grievance list, with dozens of particulars, including ones such as this:

"He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people."

And this one from Jefferson (later deleted):

"he [the king of Britain] has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it’s most sacred rights of life & liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither."

And that's what's meant by a "right of revolution" -- in the face of major provocations and crimes against humanity, and lacking lawful recourse to a representative legislature or courts of justice.

Those are not the conditions today, and are unlikely to ever become such.
So what, exactly do you wish to revolt against?
The fact that our fellow citizens keep voting for more "free stuff" and government control than is healthy, or constitutional?

Of course, that cause is worthy, but any resort to violence will not produce a good result, FRiend.

Possibly you've heard of "the law" and "the Constitution"? Those are rules we live under

Try explaining that to Obama and Congress. You obviously haven't been paying attention of late.

A small point, but the word "terrorist" in its modern meaning did not exist in those days.

Semantics. You know what I meant.

And that's what's meant by a "right of revolution" -- in the face of major provocations and crimes against humanity, and lacking lawful recourse to a representative legislature or courts of justice. Those are not the conditions today, and are unlikely to ever become such.

America will last forever, Obama's a really nice guy, Government is not trampling our inalienable rights and what's going on is just politics as usual. You haven't a freaking clue what time it is pal. You have an incurable case of Normalcy Bias

but any resort to violence will not produce a good result

Some things are with dying for. I guess for you - the promise of safety and security is enough to placate.

Enjoy your slavery, good luck attempting to reason with the MarxoFascists for what is left of your liberty and may posterity forget you were ever our countrymen.

If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. - Winston Churchill

We're soon to arrive at the latter portion of Churchill's statement, but not so for you. Your end will be to perish AS a slave.