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Trailer Talk: 'Man of Steel' Still a Force for Good Despite Darker Hues
Big Hollywood ^ | April 17, 2013 | Christian Toto

Posted on 04/17/2013 4:14:55 PM PDT by Bratch

The latest trailer for Man of Steel, the glossy reboot of the fabled Superman franchise, may look as dark as most modern comic book sagas.

It's got producer Christopher Nolan's fingerprints all over it, from the haunting score to the oh, so serious tone.

Yet our final glimpse at the film before its June 14 release reminds us why we cared about the man in blue in the first place. He's a force for good, and no amount of rebooting apparently will change that.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: americanway; christophernolan; manofsteel; superman
IIRC, the Smallville TV series debuted right after 9-11-2001.

Perhaps Superman does appear just when we need him.


1 posted on 04/17/2013 4:14:55 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

I remember Superman II with Terence Stamp and Sarah Douglas as the Villains, these new villain do not look “scary”, they look like rejects from an Iron Man movie.


2 posted on 04/17/2013 4:18:56 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: Bratch
Yikes. I know translating from comic book to movie involves some toning the down of the colors and sharpening of the edges but that screams "pale man with bad haircut in dark costume". I'd still stick as close to classic as possible.


3 posted on 04/17/2013 4:25:01 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Bratch

The key question: Does Superman fight for “Truth, Justice, and the American way”? If they’ve dropped that detail that he’s American and not some citizen of one world government, I don’t want to see it.


4 posted on 04/17/2013 4:27:03 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Bratch

I am a comic book girl, and will not see this based on the trailer. Jonathan Kent says that superman should have let a busload of children drown rather than reveal his powers. Um, no.


5 posted on 04/17/2013 4:30:08 PM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: Bratch

I liked the scene where Pa Kent says, “You are my son.” It really tugged at my heart strings.


6 posted on 04/17/2013 4:48:55 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: Bratch
superman photo: Man of Steel tumblr_mldk160b2H1qgbpi4o1_400_zpsd6d5492b.gif
7 posted on 04/17/2013 4:53:06 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: chae
Jonathan Kent says that superman should have let a busload of children drown rather than reveal his powers.

That's not what he said.

8 posted on 04/17/2013 4:56:15 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Bratch

I love these movies, love Superman but I watch this and say, man do they really need to redo the whole Jor-El and Papa Kent story?

How many movies are going to retell them sending him to earth and why, and what Papa Kent says that he has a purpose? Don’t people get bored watching this again and again?

I guess for younger people they have never seen this story line? But we do have dvd’s now.


9 posted on 04/17/2013 4:56:28 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: chae
I won't be seeing it.

The makers of this film are completely tone deaf. They're doing the exact OPPOSITE of what they should be doing after Superman Returns flopped in 2005. They're making the same mistakes Returns made, and dropping anything Returns got right. Think about it.

What Superman Returns got RIGHT: Faithful to the Christopher Reeves Superman films & look of the comics, brought back iconic John Williams score, Brandon Routh was perfectly cast as Superman, awesome CGI effects to believably use deceased actor Marlon Brando to reprise Jor-El, epic and larger than life.

What Superman Returns got WRONG: Tired, rehashed villain that didn't need to be used (Lex Luthor), tired, rehashed plot (Luthor's gonna kill Superman with Kryponite and disguise it! Yeah, didn't see that coming), many of the supporting actors were terribly miscast (Kate Bosworth was too young and had zero chemistry as Lois Lane), the film tried to be "serious" and drained all the fun out of the story, making Superman emo, the "updated" Superman suit was too dark and the fill overall looked too drab, the film was politically correct and removes references to "the American way", the running time lasted forever and bored the audience to tears.

What Man of Steel does: Ignores Christopher Reeves films & "re-imagines" Superman without red underwear, ditches the traditional sweeping Superman music in favor of some brooding score, casts some British guy as Superman, the guy from Kansas fighting for the American way, casts Russell Crowe as Jor-El, Tired, rehashed villain that didn't need to be used (General Zod), tired, rehashed plot (child from Krypton is adopted as a child by Jonathan and Martha Kent, grows up to become a journalist for the Daily Planet, must accept his super powers, and stop a Kryptonian general and megalomaniac with the same superpowers as him from taking over earth!), many of the supporting actors are terribly miscast (Laurenece Fishburne is Perry White!), the film wants to be "serious" and drains all the fun out of the story, making Superman even MORE emo, the "updated" Superman suit is too dark, the film is politically correct and removes references to "the american way", and the makes promise the film will run close to three hours.


Yeah... sorry guys, you blew it. BIG TIME.

10 posted on 04/17/2013 4:56:40 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy
the film wants to be "serious" and drains all the fun out of the story, making Superman even MORE emo, the "updated" Superman suit is too dark, the film is politically correct and removes references to "the american way"

So you've seen it?

11 posted on 04/17/2013 5:03:01 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: BillyBoy

If they can make me accept Van Alden from Boardwalk Empire as General Zod, they are miracle workers.

I have to agree, why are they rehashing the same story again and the same villain?

They don’t have to change Superman’s back story, they just don’t have to feature it in every movie.

I can only watch Jor El send him off, and the mother worries about it, and Pa Kent inspires him and he does super stuff as a kid,so many times. And then I get to see General Zod again.


12 posted on 04/17/2013 5:03:32 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Future Snake Eater
The trailers, yep. Same problems as Superman Returns, magnified 10X. Brooding, humorless, serious Superman in a drab costume struggles with his identity and fights General Zod. No thanks.
13 posted on 04/17/2013 5:07:32 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Williams
Hollywood has gotten extremely lazy. They decided to do Spider-Man's origin story too, a decade after it was done fine the first time. The fact that movie was financially sucessful has just encouraged more garbage like this. (next up: they're "remaking" Carrie AGAIN, as if they needed to after remaking it in 2002)

I get that Superman is a popular cash cow. But if they had an ounce of creativity, they would have kept the excellent cast Brandon Routh but "rebooted" it in a way to come up with a bold NEW cinematic story, like setting the film in the 1930s and have Superman fight Metallo, or doing a movie adaptation of the "death and return of Superman" storyline where he's killed by Doomsday early on, and four sucessor "Superman" emerge claiming to be his heir apparent, and battle amongst themselves. If they REALLY wanted to be bold, they do the "Superman: Red Son" storyline and show what would happen if Superman grew up in the Soviet Union and became a force for Communism instead of freedom.

But if this worthless film makes money, they'll followup with an "exciting" movie about a "rebooted" Lex Luthor investing in real estate and trying to kill Superman with kryponite. Oh joy.

14 posted on 04/17/2013 5:14:06 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Well, you seem to have an awful lot of detail from a couple of trailers. It’s impressive, really. Almost as impressive as the knee-jerk idiocy I see on these threads. Fools jump on here, complain about the lack of new ideas in Hollywood, then someone takes a good story and puts a new twist on it, and they’re immediately shouted down for doing something different.

You act like they just stabbed your dog. If you like the Donner films, you have them. This is a new take on the story. Hell, how many times has the Superman comic been retconned? How many temporary massive changes have they made to explore the story from different angles (see “Red Son”)?

The nitpicky outrage on this site against this film is absurd. “If he doesn’t say this line just this way, then IT’S PROPAGANDA!” Maybe they just went a different direction? Maybe someone had some different ideas? Maybe you people should calm the hell down.


15 posted on 04/17/2013 5:21:01 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Pollster1

In an episode of “Smallville” Clark Kent says, “Truth Justice and other things”. That irritated me so much that I changed my tagline.


16 posted on 04/17/2013 5:21:46 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: BillyBoy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_of_Steel_(comics)

This Superman’s origin was re-imagined back in 86’ when the comic book series that this movie was based on was done.


17 posted on 04/17/2013 5:56:01 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: LostInBayport

John Byrne - I liked kid take on the man of steel for the most part, though I thought he was too free with the Lois relationship and should have kept it lighter.


18 posted on 04/17/2013 6:22:25 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Future Snake Eater; Williams
>> they’re immediately shouted down for doing something different. This is a new take on the story. Maybe they just went a different direction? Maybe someone had some different ideas? <<

Actually, if the movie did any of the things you mentioned, I'd be the first in line to see it. Again, the problem is the OPPOSITE -- there is NO originality in Hollywood. If they didn't want to try a new story, there are about a zillion villains from the Superman comics that would have provided interesting storylines. Red Son was an extremely interesting "What if?" new take on Superman's origins but they would never do that in a movie because it's "too risky" Instead, we get Superman's traditional origin story for the umpteenth time and Zod as the vilian. According to Hollywood, the ONLY villains Superman has are Lex Luthor and General Zod. They've been rehashing that over and over again, for the last 30 years.

Again, EVERY problem from Superman Returns is present in those trailers. You don't need to see two hours of that to realize they learned nothing from the mistakes of the past. They've actually made it worse -- the GOOD elements of Superman Returns (Brandon Routh, etc.) are the things they decided NOT to use.

Call me when they actually DO try something original. As I said, that was the biggest problem with Superman Returns (zero originality), and the makers of this "reboot" have apparently learned nothing.

19 posted on 04/17/2013 6:28:12 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: reed13k

Agreed. I thought having the Kents alive in Clark’s adulthood was probably the best thing he did...it really humanized the character. I also liked the increasing of the size of the ‘S’ shield.

I have to agree with the others above; instead of retelling the origin again (come on, everyone knows it), why not a dramatic confrontation with a big name villain like Brainiac, Metallo, Darkseid...or even Bizarro? Nah, not Bizarro. We’ve been living in Bizarro world since 2008.


20 posted on 04/17/2013 6:30:26 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Bratch

I love that Amy Adams is Lois Lane, even though she’s a little old for the part.


21 posted on 04/17/2013 6:36:49 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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