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Business Insider: The Economic Argument Is Over -- Paul Krugman Has Won
Business Insider ^ | 04/24/2013 | Henry Blodget

Posted on 04/24/2013 7:28:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Paul Krugman Has "won" in the sense that he convinced Obama, "the smartest man in the history of the world", to follow his advice (although it is possible that Obama supported the stimulus because he knew exactly what it would do to real jobs). Those who support responsible spending have won in the sense that the recovery under stimulus has been as predicted - a collapse of private-sector economic growth. Krugman and this fraud think that's a good outcome, but decent people have to disagree.

I'm not seeing the benefit of "Stimulus" to anyone except the insiders who engage in crony capitalism. Decent people seem to be hardest hit as they are pushed out of the work force.

21 posted on 04/24/2013 7:52:52 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Well said, sir. Well said.

Krugman’s plan worked for say 6 months or so - at the cost of what? Borrowing and spending.

Now he is trying to cover up the true nature by fiddling with the debt/GDP ratio and trying to hide the actual debt load being carried by the United States.

This makes me furious. It’s one thing to trash the credit and reputation of America - which will take a long time to repair, quite another to lie to the people of the United States to make it difficult to uncover what is actually going on. This is the route to bankruptcy and disaster.


22 posted on 04/24/2013 7:52:57 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: ilgipper

RE: Yes! .01% growth and 7.5% unemployment is PROOF that this approach works.

Whenever I see someone tout the so called 7.5% or 7.6% unemployment rate, I know that he is IGNORING THE RECORD NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF TH WORKFORCE WHO ARE *NOT* (REPEAT *NOT* ) COUNTED when they do this monthly survey.


23 posted on 04/24/2013 7:53:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: JCBreckenridge

All it did was to make the inevitable collapse even worse.


24 posted on 04/24/2013 7:53:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Get back to me Henry when we are spending a Trillion dollars a year just in interest alone on the National Debt. That should be sometime near the end of Obama’s term.


25 posted on 04/24/2013 7:53:44 AM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: SeekAndFind
Economist Paul Krugman has a simple solution to America's economic woes: Prepare for an alien invasion.

Mmmmmmm look at the brain on that guy! I definitely want to take financial advice from him!

Heh. The Krugtrollpig (or was it pigtroll?) can go back to spit shining his fake nobel prize. I am not interested in listening to his mantra of spend spend spend spend spend till we all die.

26 posted on 04/24/2013 7:55:51 AM PDT by Casie (democrats destroy)
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To: SeekAndFind

If a group of thugs owned a body shop and took sledge hammers to my car, I would not take my car to their body shop for repair. That is effectively what Blodget is arguing.


27 posted on 04/24/2013 7:55:58 AM PDT by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Consider the source. Permanently banned from the securities industry due to fraud.”

Yep. Henry was the number one shill for the dot.com pump, dump, and bust industry, i.e., the bubble/recession prior to this current one back in good ol’ 2K. Henry really ought to be in jail. If this had been in China, Henry would have been one of the ones with a bullet to the back of the skull as a little lesson to the rest.

He’s probably not too concerned about bankrupting the U.S. anyway because he probably figures he’s got his and can dash away to some safe place and save himself when the SHTF.


28 posted on 04/24/2013 7:56:09 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If Obama really wanted to “level the playing field”, he would tax Chinese imports and leave internet sales alone. That’s about the only thing that will bring those lost jobs and revenues back. He won’t though. Remember, we had negative GDP last quarter until he had the statistics revised. also, a $15.86 trillion GDP and a $17 trillion debt means debt is 107% of GDP. I’d say this so called “free trade” isn’t working and, as such, it’s getting tougher to make the smoot hawley argument against tariffs. No amount of logic and reason will change the course of this ship though. We are doomed to hit the iceberg even though we can all see it coming.


29 posted on 04/24/2013 7:56:28 AM PDT by RC one (If you see typos, I'm on an iphone.)
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To: RAY

Try playing the game “Monopoly” by eliminating the mortgage limits on the back of the deeds . . . 100% financing. It is an interesting lesson about the money supply.


30 posted on 04/24/2013 8:00:41 AM PDT by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: Pollster1

http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

There’s the source for this!

Excellent post, sir.

In March of 2013 - the number was 63.3 percent labor force participation - a number last matched in May of 1979.

To give you an idea - in December of 1955, the rate was 60.2.

Measuring peak to trough, we have already unwound the gains of the 80’s and 90s. Now were unwinding the gains of the 70s. All you boomers hitting the workforce from 1973 onwards, drove this rate from 60.2 in the 50s all the way up to 63.3 in 1978. Took 5 years to get there. I wonder how long it will take to give it all back.


31 posted on 04/24/2013 8:01:52 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: RC one

Yeah, the real problem is that Americans do too much business and trade abroad.

I bet if we tighten that up people will prosper.

How about getting rid of that HHS? Actual cuts in government spending? Ending Qinfinity?

Bad economic policy = Bad economy.


32 posted on 04/24/2013 8:04:11 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: SeekAndFind
...and its interest rates have remained stubbornly low.

Umm. It's a miracle?
Or, Is the outfit who prints the money keeping rates "stubbornly low" - - for now?

Who but the Democrats' own economy propaganda rag, 'Business Insider', could proclaim in the middle of an ongoing depression that Paul Krugman was right?

33 posted on 04/24/2013 8:04:37 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SeekAndFind

Calvin Coolidge.


34 posted on 04/24/2013 8:05:21 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: dfwgator

Well, there’s still time for a course correction.


35 posted on 04/24/2013 8:06:09 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s like saying Keynes won because of the 1930’s, and it requires ignoring the 1981-2008 economic boom fueled by supply side economics. Morons.


36 posted on 04/24/2013 8:11:45 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: SeekAndFind
What BS. Notice how it uses “Austerian” sounds sort of like Austrian. Like the Austrian school of economics. You know Ludwig Von Misses, Milton Friedman...etc. A straw man comparison.
37 posted on 04/24/2013 8:14:41 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: SeekAndFind

True. was just taking the ‘official’ numbers to make the point. The reality is much, much worse.


38 posted on 04/24/2013 8:15:24 AM PDT by ilgipper (The lesson for the GOP is simple - don't let the opposition define you)
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To: SeekAndFind

> Whenever I see someone tout the so called 7.5% or 7.6% unemployment rate, I know that he is IGNORING THE RECORD NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF TH WORKFORCE WHO ARE *NOT* (REPEAT *NOT* ) COUNTED when they do this monthly survey.

I’ve heard that the true unemployment number is near to 16 % and possibly as high as 21 %. Everyone I know has taken a significant hit to their income under the current regime.


39 posted on 04/24/2013 8:17:37 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SeekAndFind
Paul Krugman Has Won

Perhaps the four most chilling words in the English language, were it not for "Barack Obama's Second Term".


40 posted on 04/24/2013 8:18:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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