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Five Days Below the Poverty Line
Yahoo Finance, reuters ^ | Dan Wilchins | Dan Wilchins

Posted on 05/09/2013 1:00:07 PM PDT by wbill

My wife Becky and I experimented with radically cutting our food costs last week as part of a fundraising campaign created by a hunger charity.

Under the "Live Below The Line" campaign sponsored by the Global Poverty Project, an Australian charity, for five days we spent $1.50 per person per day on food, which is the extreme poverty line globally, according to the World Bank.

Living in New York, we typically spend about $140 a week on groceries for our family of four. What drew me to the campaign was seeing if we could shrink that amount drastically. It was like trying to solve a puzzle, and if we got it right, we could make a charitable donation.

My wife agreed to do it, with a few stipulations. Neither of us wanted to include our children, who at ages 1 and 4 would gain nothing from losing all those calories. We agreed to "cheat" by not charging pantry staples - like cooking oil, seasoning, or even breakfast cereal - against our weekly allowance of $15.00, or $1.50 per person times five days.

And when co-workers offered us cookies, we gladly ate them.

But even with changes to the rules, the exercise still had integrity. Living in a two-bedroom apartment in Brooklyn, New York, we have a small larder, so whatever we buy, we soon eat.

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Hmmm. Feeding a couple on $3/day. BUT, they could 'cheat' by using pantry staples.

Mrs WBill and I would not eat well on $3/day, but we'd eat.

And, thinking about it.... I feed a family of 4 on around $100/week +/-. That number includes TP, and Paper towels, and laundry detergent, dish soap, etc etc etc etc.

Just figuring in *only* food, would get us close to ($1.50 * 4 = $6.00 / day or $42/week). We'd be in the ballpark, at least. And that's without being careful.

Hmmmmmm.......

1 posted on 05/09/2013 1:00:07 PM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

We go on austerity rations around here, when money is short. Eggs, rice and beans, and whatever’s growing in the garden. The big expense is milk, although one can cut that by using powdered.

Much wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Offspring, but it doesn’t hurt anyone.


2 posted on 05/09/2013 1:03:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Sarah is right.)
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To: wbill

And the libtards ate food others offered them, like cookies and high-calorie junk like that.

Only liberals would say this is a valid test. You either do it 100% or you don’t.

They didn’t and I don’t care what they say.


3 posted on 05/09/2013 1:04:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: wbill

Pigeons are tasty. Rats are plentiful. That still leaves one short on beer money.


4 posted on 05/09/2013 1:08:58 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: wbill

This guy is a fool. Sh** like this, Earth Day, turning off the lights for an hour, throwing your change into a bucket “for Africa” are mere feel-good gestures for squishy metrosexuals.

First of all, there is a thing called “purchasing power parity.”

meaning $3 will buy you different amounts of the same goods (or substitute goods) in Manhattan vs. Mogadishu

Mostly though, if he wants to understand their poverty, he should move there, and get the full context - culture, climate, Government, religion, economic opportunity, etc...

I’ve done it - and have no time for this superficial yuppy crap.


5 posted on 05/09/2013 1:10:24 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: wbill

What is it with all the crapola about living on buck fifty per day?

Who does that? Who decided that is the magic number to define poverty?

I daresay the average welfare mom and her kids do far better than I do with money spent on food.

Especially if its MY MONEY she’s spending on groceries.


6 posted on 05/09/2013 1:15:37 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: PGR88

“This guy is a fool. Sh** ... First of all, there is a thing called “purchasing power parity.””

Thank you for the sanity.


7 posted on 05/09/2013 1:16:45 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Secret Agent Man

Besides, with food stamps, no one has to live on that little per day.
Otherwise, you wouldn’t be seeing steak and lobster in the carts of the EBT zombies.


8 posted on 05/09/2013 1:18:01 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Oh, and another thing -

it didn’t matter whether they “did it” or not.

The point was how they felt about themselves for participating. That’s the sheeperals’ only goal.


9 posted on 05/09/2013 1:18:54 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PGR88

Easy to do when you don’t “have” to knowing at the end of your quest you will return to “normal”. About as worthy as ben affleck living like a bum for a week. But hey. At least the felt like they were “doing something”. Asshats.


10 posted on 05/09/2013 1:19:57 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: wbill

A couple of points.....

Most Third World countries significantly subsidize the price of food staples like rice.

That’s why they have food riots when subsidies are cut - because people actually begin to starve.

$1.50 will buy you WAY more rice in Vietnam than it will in new York.

Also, I’d like to see the menu for how the author feeds four people in New York at $5 per person per day.

Here in Seattle a half gallon of orange juice on sale costs $3, store brand yogurt is $2 for 32 oz, store brand bread is $2, a large banana is 50 cents.


11 posted on 05/09/2013 1:19:59 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: wbill

When they talk about global poverty, they don’t mention the fact that $1US goes a lot farther in most places than NYC.


12 posted on 05/09/2013 1:21:02 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: MrB

My wife was at a friend’s house and ate a bunch of the brie cheese she offered. Too much! So she bought some and brought it over to replace it as she knows money is tight for them. “Oh no. You keep the cheese - I get it on EBT anyways.”

Money is a bit tight at our home at the moment as well, so we cut out buying soda. The friend offered to buy us the soda with her EBT.


13 posted on 05/09/2013 1:22:47 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: 21twelve

“Say, why don’t you shop my grocery list and I’ll pay you cash!”

Don’t think that doesn’t happen.


14 posted on 05/09/2013 1:26:35 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Tax-chick
I ate out of the garden for my entire childhood. Didn't hurt me, other than I still prefer my mom's veggie canning to most anything storebought.

Perhaps you and I should write a self-congratulatory article like this clown did. Talk about how noble we are for being on austerity rations, and such. ;-)

I dunno about you, but I've had it tough, and I've had it good. Right now, it's somewhere in the middle, thankfully and least for the moment.

Given my druthers, I'll take "good" every time. There's nothing noble about poverty, IMHO.

15 posted on 05/09/2013 1:28:14 PM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

I know a guy that cut his food bill in half by fasting every other day. He’s healthy and athletic at age 64.


16 posted on 05/09/2013 1:28:15 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Joe McCarthy was right.)
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To: wbill

Sounds like they’re from the Cindy Sheehan school of austerity.

It would certainly not be worth asking if they really got into the spirit of the exercise by walking at least a mile to a questionable water supply, cooking over an open fire made of whatever wood and leaves they were able to find, and not saving any leftovers in a refrigerator and re-heating them in their microwave oven.


17 posted on 05/09/2013 1:28:17 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: 21twelve
we cut out buying soda

Yep. We do the same type thing, when it gets tight. No out-to-eat. No snacks, desserts, soda, etc etc etc. .

We shop once a week. Even when things are going well, the general rule on 'non-essentials' like that is "when it's gone, it's gone". As in, we picked up a thing of ice cream while shopping on Saturday. We'll get another one next week, budget permitting. What's in the freezer is it until then. The kids whine, a little, but they'll live.

Saves a whole lot of calories, too. :-) Dunno about you, but I don't need 'extras'. lol!

...and don't get me started on your EBT friend.....

18 posted on 05/09/2013 1:37:56 PM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

What a pretentious, sanctimonious little twit.


19 posted on 05/09/2013 1:59:09 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: wbill

I realize this guy is talking 3rd world numbers, but the intent of the piece is to confuse folks with USA “poverty”.

By my reckoning, food stamps alone provides about $150 / wk for a family of four. Add in the freebie breakfast and lunch for the kids at school and pillaging the local private food banks and you have a lot of chubby “poor” children and adults.


20 posted on 05/09/2013 2:04:27 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: wbill

You’d be in compassionate company:

Biden’s Sons, Wife Eat on $1.50 A Day to Bring Attention to Poverty
Newsmax ^ | 01 May 2013 09:08 PM | Greg Richter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3014738/posts


21 posted on 05/09/2013 2:09:37 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: wbill

This whole “$1.50 a day” nonsense is only a fell-good exercise by liberals. First of all, they know they are going to get extra snacks and also they know the exercise will end in five days.

The real poor live like this for real and there is no end. The light from the tunnel, so to speak. A never-ending search for food to keep from starving.

Their little ploy only serves to make them feel better about themselves and does nothing to solve real hunger issues.


22 posted on 05/09/2013 2:13:21 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: wbill

I can give a bettercomkparison. Back around 1981, I spent a year more or less as a bum. I went to college for a semester and not having money for the next semester lived off $187.50 a month Social Security check.

This paid my rent and electricity bills. For food, I sold blood plasma for $15 a week and lived off $2.00 a day food plan. For me, this was usually 2 boxes of mac and cheese and a 2 liter Pepsi.

I lived like this for several months, with brief periods of real food when I visited parents back 300 miles away or occassional work.

I finally moved back home with my parents after a year and got a real job and left this bumming behind me.

This airhead has no clue what it is like to live EVERY freaking day on almost no money and scrounging around for it. Have him pick up trash or do meanial work for a few hours or sell blood plasma like I did to really get the “feel” of what it is like.

I swear liberals just love to feel others pain while not every doing anything real to solve them, other than spend tax dollars to make themselves feel better about themselves.


23 posted on 05/09/2013 2:24:08 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: 21twelve

Makes you feel good about paying your taxes, doesn’t it. Its free money to them so they don’t respect it.

Had similar experiences past few years myself.


24 posted on 05/09/2013 2:27:22 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: MrB

I’ve received offers like that from people hanging out in front of the local grocery store. I’ve ignored a few, blew up at a couple.


25 posted on 05/09/2013 3:18:38 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: packrat35
These libtards have the gall to say they held their noses to eat canned green beans. Excuse me, but we eat cheap off brand canned green beans all the time (except during garden time). La te da, aren't they suffering! Five whole days and I'm supposed to feel sorry for them.

Back in college I wasn't as broke as you but we still had to scrape by. The lunchroom was closed Friday after lunch so you had to fend for yourself over the weekends. We weren't allowed to have any appliance except a popcorn popper and I had an ancient one that had a coil heating unit in the bottom and the container part was metal so I could heat up canned 49 cent Franco-American spaghetti (there wasn’t ramen noodles back then) or 25 cents boxed mac ‘n cheese on Sundays. A piece of foil on an iron would cook weinies but without a fridge we would have to have several of us to finish the package. Every Saturday, I'd walk a mile to the fried chicken place and get a snack pack for $1.50 (a thigh, fries, and save the biscuit for dinner) and along the route was a cheap coke machine so $2 got me through.

26 posted on 05/09/2013 3:30:10 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: wbill

Do you think there’s any chance we can get Congress to cut back the EBT to $1.50 a day per adult?


27 posted on 05/09/2013 4:10:32 PM PDT by B4Ranch (http://www.theycometoamerica.com/)
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