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To: BIV

I’m not sure that for this type of event (ore better yet, describe it as a “cluster of hypotheticals”) that we need Bells theorem.

It is true, AFAIK, that Bell’s theorem has no specifics about just exactly “How much superluminal” we are talking about, in other words, just a tiny bit superluminal (meaning the “event” in space and time are close) or vastly superluminal (spanning distances across the whole universe, times going back to the big bang).

This whole deal might be explained with your ordinary run-of-the-nill uncertainty. The particle is not here (exactly) and it’s not there(exactly), but it’s at some kind of fuzzy place that has a little bit of “here” and a little bit of “there”.

Although derided by purists, I recommend “Quantum Mechanics and Experience” by David Z Albert.
It uses alot of practical, understandable, day to day type metaphors to explain what quantum mechanics DOES NOT DO to give the reader a feel of how weird it really is!


67 posted on 05/15/2013 5:15:20 PM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: djf

Thanks. I will check out Albert’s book.
It still seems to me that if we accept non-locality, as we must (and I agree Bell made no attempt of which I am aware to expound upon its ramifications) (he seems to me to have been a very non-assuming man), that supports the notion of interconnectedness on both a quantum entanglement perspective as well as a macro perspective.
I recommend you review Herbert’s early 1980s book entitled “Quantum Reality.” He is a little strange, but sublimely interesting.
I think we are talking about a lot of superluminal goings on.
It does not violate the constant because they ie., the particles, were always connected, as are we.


74 posted on 05/15/2013 5:50:56 PM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: djf

I do not understand how uncertainty could explain this. For example, as I comprehend it, no effort is made to calculate both location and momentum. Rather, simply simultaneous spin, in some ways violating the constant, was measured, which is just one measurement not precluded by the uncertainty principle. I think.
I realize this is pretty far out for folks not into this stuff, but it confuses the heck out of me. I think it was Feynman who said that if you claim to understand quantum mechanics you are really confused, or words to that effect.
Nice talking to you.


78 posted on 05/15/2013 6:35:06 PM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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