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To: MestaMachine
Well… some context is obviously needed for Obama’s UN speech. The quote referenced is about ¾ of the way down the text of the speech in a long shopping list of ‘who the future must not belong to’…

The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country’s resources -- it must be won by the students and entrepreneurs, the workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people. Those are the women and men that America stands with; theirs is the vision we will support.

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied.

I’m not saying I agree or disagree with the comment that this is an ‘evil speech’…. but context means everything when people speak.

6 posted on 05/16/2013 1:01:19 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: hecticskeptic
Any one else miss the “the United States Government had absolutely nothing to do with this video” repeats from HRC, Obama, Rice and Carney in the following.... I didn't see that talking point in the emails released yesterday!! The video was a false flag to cover for what was either going on what might go wrong...... My guess is that the U.S. Government WAS behind the video....

The orchestrated cover-up (just a small snippet):

1.
Hillary Clinton Speaking at a press conference from the State Department on September 13, 2012
“Let me state very clearly — and I hope it is obvious — that the United States Government had absolutely nothing to do with this video.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXYdb57P7T4

2.
Press Gaggle by Press Secretary Jay Carney — Golden, CO, 9/13/12
“As Secretary Clinton said today, the United States government had nothing to do with this movie.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/13/press-gaggle-press-secretary-jay-carney-golden-co-91312

3.
Hillary Clinton Speaks at Ceremony as Bodies of Americans Killed in Libya Arrive in the US September 14, 2012
“We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with.”
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/09/14/transcript-video-hillary-clinton-speaks-at-ceremony-as-bodies-of-americans-killed-in-libya-arrive-in-the-us/

4.
White House spokesman Jay Carney held a press briefing September 14, 2012
“The reason why there’s unrest is because of the film. This is in response to the film… this is not a film that the United States government had anything to do with. We reject its message and its contents we find it both reprehensible.”
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/09/14/carney-anti-islam-video-completely-to-blame-for-unrest/

5.
U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., Susan Rice, goes on morning shows at NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX and CNN. September 16, 2012
Rice called the attack a “direct result of a heinous and offensive video that was widely disseminated, that the U.S. government had nothing to do with.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501713_162-57541739/timeline-of-comments-on-attack-on-us-consulate/

6.
Sept. 18: Obama was asked about the Benghazi attack on “The Late Show with David Letterman.”
“As offensive as this video was and, obviously, we’ve denounced it and the United States government had nothing to do with it.
http://factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

7.
President Barack Obama’s speech to the UN General Assembly — full text September 25, 2012
“That is what we saw play out the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world. I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video”
http://www.timesofisrael.com/president-barack-obamas-speech-to-the-un-general-assembly-full-text/

9 posted on 05/16/2013 1:10:34 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: hecticskeptic

Context is important when HONEST people speak. But when you know someone lies to you repeatedly, then you do not give them the benefit of the doubt just because they may have included flowering sounding phrases amongst the lies. Little barry absatrd boy was spewing lies and false claims in that UN speech. Among those lies and decpetions he sprinkled a few flowery sounding phrases, probably meant to do just what it appears they have done, fool some into believing he is sincere and trying to bring equitable peace. He is in reality pushing the Caliphate.


19 posted on 05/16/2013 1:24:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: hecticskeptic

Yes. Context is important, but if you have ever heard muslim speeches, what sounds like one thing to Westerners has a completely different meaning to muslims.
Add to that by the time obama gave that speech, the whole video scenario had been proven false. So WHO was the speech for?


61 posted on 05/16/2013 5:33:05 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: hecticskeptic; MestaMachine

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied.

I’m not saying I agree or disagree with the comment that this is an ‘evil speech’…. but context means everything when people speak.


Of course 0 had to include some other “who the future doesn’t belong to) for padding and a setting for the meat of his statement about slandering Islam. I didn’t realize he even said “The holy prophet” (you ommitted the “holy” part). His condemnation of slanderers of the prophet is much more weighted than the other statements.

Plus, he never critizes (other than may the most occasional and very rare token) those who kill and slaughter Jews or Christians or destroy their places of worship, or blaspheme their religions. What about his support of MB in Egypt, wehre Copts are harrassed and killed? Or in Syria, where Christians are slaughtered and tormented by the Islamic rebels?

Sheesh, you need to learn more or gain some sense.


111 posted on 05/18/2013 11:32:15 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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