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Navy dolphins discover rare old torpedo off Coronado (San Diego, CA)
LA Times ^ | May 17, 2013 | Tony Perry

Posted on 05/18/2013 12:13:00 PM PDT by jazusamo

Two trained dolphins surprise Navy specialists with their find: a Howell torpedo, state-of-the-art for its day in the late 19th century. It's only the second one known to exist.

SAN DIEGO — In the ocean off Coronado, a Navy team has discovered a relic worthy of display in a military museum: a torpedo of the kind deployed in the late 19th century, considered a technological marvel in its day.

But don't look for the primary discoverers to get a promotion or an invitation to meet the admirals at the Pentagon — although they might get an extra fish for dinner or maybe a pat on the snout.

The so-called Howell torpedo was discovered by bottlenose dolphins being trained by the Navy to find undersea objects, including mines, that not even billion-dollar technology can detect.

"Dolphins naturally possess the most sophisticated sonar known to man," Braden Duryee, an official at the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center Pacific said after the surprising discovery.

While not as well known as the Gatling gun and the Sherman tank, the Howell torpedo was hailed as a breakthrough when the U.S. was in heavy competition for dominance on the high seas. It was the first torpedo that could truly follow a track without leaving a wake and then smash a target, according to Navy officials.

Only 50 were made between 1870 and 1889 by a Rhode Island company before a rival copied and surpassed the Howell's capability.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: california; dolphins; howelltorpedo; usnavy
Howell torpedo

This Howell torpedo at the Naval Undersea Museum in Keyport, Wash., was thought
to be the only one in existence, but Navy-trained dolphins found another one in the
ocean off Coronado. (U.S. Navy)

1 posted on 05/18/2013 12:13:00 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Amazing for it’s time.


2 posted on 05/18/2013 12:18:30 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: chesty_puller

Yes it is. I’m no military history buff but it’s pretty good technology for that era.


3 posted on 05/18/2013 12:22:16 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Anyone know who its named for?


4 posted on 05/18/2013 12:26:04 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Mercat; All

Here’s the Wiki write up on it, more info than I thought would be there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howell_torpedo


5 posted on 05/18/2013 12:28:38 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Cool!


6 posted on 05/18/2013 12:35:50 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: jazusamo
Quite a propulsion system.. I guess you wind it up like one of those old gliders with a rubber band. LOL

No fuel or engine. Amazing!

7 posted on 05/18/2013 12:41:53 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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8 posted on 05/18/2013 12:47:54 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Mercat
Anyone know who its named for?

The guy on Gilligan's Island?

9 posted on 05/18/2013 12:50:22 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: jazusamo

I would love to see if they could locate the lost Abomb off Tybee Island , GA..
Story in detail @
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18587608


10 posted on 05/18/2013 12:58:46 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: GOYAKLA

It’d be interesting to know if the Navy has tried to locate it with the dolphins.


11 posted on 05/18/2013 1:12:19 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Awesomely steampunk!


12 posted on 05/18/2013 1:16:20 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: CMB_polarization
Awesomely steampunk!

Hah! Sure is.

That museum they mentioned in Keyport, WA is really worth the trip. They have an emphasis on submarines and underwater things, since they're near Sub Base Bangor.

13 posted on 05/18/2013 1:25:43 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: jazusamo

It’s beautiful. Sort of a Jules Verne thing going on.


14 posted on 05/18/2013 1:30:27 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I agree, I thought of Jules Verne also and James Mason in 20,000 Leagues.


15 posted on 05/18/2013 1:35:19 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

I believe the Navy?/ Air Force? gave up years ago and only private people concern themselves to search.
I have an Ex BIL, Ex Navy friend in the area that occasionally “pittels’ with it.
The goverment frowns on most.


16 posted on 05/18/2013 1:39:41 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: jazusamo

Amazing.
I love this!


17 posted on 05/18/2013 1:43:48 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: jazusamo
Be careful what you teach animals to bring home:


18 posted on 05/18/2013 1:49:50 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: jazusamo

A little history. I was interested since my father’s given name was Howell. Little Missouri town. No one in the military so I don’t think he was named after this guy but who knows.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams_Howell


19 posted on 05/18/2013 1:50:41 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: PLMerite

LOL! Surprise!


20 posted on 05/18/2013 1:52:33 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: PLMerite

“Be careful what you teach animals to bring home:”

Our neighbors dog would knock down a fence to fetch a firecracker before it went of.


21 posted on 05/18/2013 1:58:31 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: CMB_polarization; jazusamo

Mustang Class Torpedo Flyer

The Mustang class torpedo flyer was conceived in 1884 as an inexpensive craft capable of patrolling and defending America's Eastern Coast. An Army project, it was also an attempt to demonstrate that the US Army should "own" the skies, not the "New Navy." Senior generals reasoned that if flyers like the Mustang class could effectively prevent foreign fleets from approaching the coast, and harass enemy shipping, it would ensure that the Army would be the nation's first line of defense (and ensure ample funding).

......................

Armament of Mustang ClassClass

4 Howell Torpedo Launchers (16 torpedoes)
3-inch BLR (40 rounds)
8 Hotchkiss Revolving Steam Cannon 37mm/5 in 4 double turrets (9600 rounds)

Source

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22 posted on 05/18/2013 2:24:12 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: jazusamo

How did it track? What was it’s propulsion system?


23 posted on 05/18/2013 2:26:45 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: CMB_polarization; jazusamo

Mustang Class Torpedo Flyer

The Mustang class torpedo flyer was conceived in 1884 as an inexpensive craft capable of patrolling and defending America's Eastern Coast. An Army project, it was also an attempt to demonstrate that the US Army should "own" the skies, not the "New Navy." Senior generals reasoned that if flyers like the Mustang class could effectively prevent foreign fleets from approaching the coast, and harass enemy shipping, it would ensure that the Army would be the nation's first line of defense (and ensure ample funding).

......................

Armament of Mustang Class Torpedo Flyer

4 Howell Torpedo Launchers (16 torpedoes)
3-inch BLR (40 rounds)
8 Hotchkiss Revolving Steam Cannon 37mm/5 in 4 double turrets (9600 rounds)

Source

:o)  photo Yacht-03-june_zps61c08d69.gif

I think that Howell torpedo guy was a distant cousin three times removed on my great-great-great granddaddy's sister's nephew's side of the family.

24 posted on 05/18/2013 2:30:21 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
LOL!

Gads I love these military history threads, I learn something new on every one of them. ;-)

Good to see your yacht again, it just keeps going and going:)

25 posted on 05/18/2013 2:32:17 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: stuartcr

Check the Wiki link at post 5. It was powered by a flywheel spinning at 10 to 12 thousand RPM before launch and had a range of about 400 yds.


26 posted on 05/18/2013 2:35:39 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo
The Army/Navy rivalry runs deep in my family. :o)

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27 posted on 05/18/2013 2:48:03 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: jazusamo

I saw that after I posted, I didn’t see anything about tracking.


28 posted on 05/18/2013 3:35:24 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr

I haven’t seen anything about tracking either, looks like there wasn’t any. I guess they aimed as best they could, launched and hoped it would hit.


29 posted on 05/18/2013 3:43:10 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: smoothsailing
LOL, my boat stalled in post#27!

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30 posted on 05/18/2013 3:45:27 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: jazusamo

Pretty clever propulsion


31 posted on 05/18/2013 4:16:32 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: smoothsailing

It didn’t stall, the wind quit. Must have been due to global warming! ;-)


32 posted on 05/18/2013 5:53:22 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo
LOL! Yep, these pups would have come in handy!

33 posted on 05/18/2013 7:31:27 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


34 posted on 05/19/2013 1:11:43 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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