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To: Ray76
“Citizen” necessarily encompasses “naturalized citizen” as well as “natural born citizen”. If a naturalization statute creates “natural born citizens” then there is no need for the Grandfather Clause, “citizen” would have sufficed.

No, there's a huge difference between someone who is a citizen at and by birth, and someone who was NOT born a citizen of the United States but was naturalized at some point later in life.

Those who are citizens AT AND BY BIRTH (whether that status can be affected by laws set by Congress or not) is a natural born citizen. Those who aren't citizens AT AND BY BIRTH are not.

See my previous post. James Bayard wrote in 1834 that people in Cruz's situation were ELIGIBLE. And Chief Justice John Marshall, who of all persons ought to have been in a position to know, agreed.

199 posted on 05/21/2013 7:42:54 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

At and by birth, or at and by statute? Cruz is a US citizen by naturalization statute.


200 posted on 05/21/2013 7:55:50 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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