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To: Kevmo
I never called him a con artist or even a supposed one, but when you come across stuff like this, you kinda wonder...

Note******* I did not write this. It was a comment made on this article.

http://futureinnovation.larc.nasa.gov/view/articles/futurism/bushnell/low-energy-nuclear-reactions.html

*************************************************** JT • a year ago −

Reading comments I noticed that a lot of people is wondering about Rossi's e-cat, and I would like to tell you the truth about it.

So, first of all do let's do a presentation of the character, Rossi, who has brought the issue of lenr/cold fusion (you pick the name) to the fore by astonishing statements.

Rossi holds a degree in philosophy in Italy and obtained the title of chemical engineer by purchasing a fake degree in the United States at the Kensington University. Towards the end of 1970 he founded the Petroldragon in Italy and claimed to be able to achieve what he calls "refluopetrolio" (a sort of petrol) using a distillation process of municipal and industrial waste. It was actually a trick to charge companies for the disposal of toxic waste storing it in warehouses without proper security measures (due to the fact that, by virtue of its nonexistent method to process it, it was passed off as raw material or fuel). The result was, aside from legal problems in which Rossi incurred, a lot of money spent by municipalities to clear up the areas that he had filled of such wastes.

Now, these are the facts. He recently appeared with Focardi, a retired physics professor who had worked for some years to the study of cold fusion without achieving any appreciable result, saying that, thanks to his mysterious catalyst (that not even the professor knows), he was able to get stunning results of energy gains.

The alleged invention (let's call it the box) is a sort of box containing nickel powder, hydrogen and a "secret catalyst"; this mixture, after being initially heated, would be able to start a nuclear fusion. But here starts the first problems, neither Rossi himself is very clear about it. At the beginning of the story the box was declared producing gamma rays as evidence of nuclear fusion, now these rays became negligible or absent (the energy of the future must also be safe, don't you think?).

Let's analyze Rossi's behaviour in this story:

- He does not want to give details and does not want to open the box in the name of protection of trade secret, without knowing, or pretending not to know, that a scientific publication (in addition to grant him immense honor and an unknown, but very high, number of scientific and social awards as human saviour) constitutes a patent per se, so his attitude does not make sense. He prefers to make the fool of himself by looking for a mean profit.

-He never agreed to do a controlled experiment to test the effectiveness of the box. He spread videos and pictures that prove nothing, organized "demonstrations" in which guests could only watch and biased by methods of measurement (as well as by a suspect power generator always plugged to the box) that many experts have considered very little reliable.

-He purchased a website by the name of "Journal of Nuclear Physics", to simulate a scientific journal and make it appear as the international scientific community agrees with his work and is wondering about cold fusion. Needless to say, this site is full of absurd articles that contradict any physical principle known.

-He subsequently announced a joint venture with a Greek company, then aborted, a collaboration with the University of Bologna, then aborted (actually Rossi had promised € 500,000 to the university to study the box, but has never paid), and various and mysterious clients, institutional or otherwise, of which no one knows anything.

-He made a lot of claims of good results and imminent commercialization of the box but that time never arrives... there is always something new that arises and prevent it.

-Currently his company, Leonardo Corporation, according to Sterling Allan, sells industrial plants for energy production to 2,000,000 dollars each on their site in convenient containers, yet Rossi has never stated that the plants are ready for the market. By the way, these test plants sometimes are in the USA (no one knows where), sometimes are also in Italy (no one knows where either).

I think these informations are sufficient to remove all doubts about the story, Rossi's e-cat is a scam. Let me repeat, Rossi's e-cat is a scam.

I know it would be beautiful if it were true, but this is why the scam works so well, these cheaters use our hope as a psychological leverage to make us believe their claims, don't fall for it.

gbgoble > JT • a year ago

558 posted on 05/29/2013 1:39:53 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat
To be fair and balanced, I also read this reply to the above reply by a head over heals fan of the idea. So I will post that too for comparison of pro and con....lol

********************************************** What this Article is REALLY SAYING IS:

We at NASA have been using Counter Intelligence to SUPPRESS this SCIENCE and those who have been developing it by discrediting, spreading Disinformation and generally stifling Creative Innovation for years. Again, we still are, we have had this Technology for Years, but out of Greed for Money and to further EXPLOIT HUMANITY. We like to apply Science for Military use for the Big Oil Monopolies that walk LOCKSTEP with OPEC.

See, we like controlling the World thru Capitalistic Manipulation of Energy because it is now a Push Button World and most all Human EXPLOITATION, Labor and Suffering could have ended years ago. Thru the use of several hidden Black Operations Discoveries and STOLEN Intellectual Properties. Just look a the Patent Offices use of Classifications for National Security Interests of American Citizens applications for Energy related Patents that force them to remain silent. While we Develop Weapons and are secretly incorporating them into Space Programs for later use against the Masses of Humanity on Earth for Corporate ENTITIES that will live forever, making us like GOD.

This is why America's economy has tanked, because of this SUPPRESSION and refusal to allow a FREE MARKET of Intellectual Property and Innovations in favor of a few UBER RICH ELITE CAPITALISTS who want to own the WORLD that God actually gave to all Humanity, rather than us evil Corporate ENTITIES, Black Military Operations ad their Industrialized Military Complex. Yes, God created you in his image a gave you the Earth not just for those a live now but for the Eternity of Generations.

Seems God has gotten a bit upset regarding our Greed which is one of the 7 Deadly Sins and is pressuring us to reveal our FOLLIES... Apparently, he wants his People to inherit the Earth and has made a covenant that Humanity and not ENTITIES should hold the STEWARDSHIP. So, here in this statement we are gently as possible telling you a HALF TRUTH to make you believe we are just now inventing and innovating a new Science that may (or may not) benefit Humanity in general. We want you to believe we care for Humanity and are being sure first that you are truly ready for such a blessing as the TRUTH!!!

We are really scared what Humanity might do to us for Concealing this truth for so long and be just a little upset... To know all these years that this TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE from our TYRANNY and GREED.

GEEZE, What a crock of Sugar Coated Dung!!! The Paterfamilias - Set GODS PEOPLE FREE!!!

*********************************** I think that about sums up the arguments....My Goodness! It all makes sense now! LOL!

559 posted on 05/29/2013 2:59:09 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat

It’s time to take the mod’s advice and ignore you.

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


561 posted on 05/29/2013 3:51:23 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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