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‘Boy or Girl?’ Gender a new challenge for schools
Associated Press ^ | May 28, 2013 12:41 PM EDT | Martha Irvine

Posted on 05/28/2013 12:21:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai
More importantly, what if they wanted to BE the opposite gender—or a less-defined mix of both? And what if they wanted to test those limits in public places, like school?

Would you let them?

When I was little, I wanted to be a giraffe.

21 posted on 05/28/2013 12:41:15 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: faithhopecharity

+1


22 posted on 05/28/2013 12:41:38 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: rbg81
Mark my words, you will have Liberal parents telling their kids that they are really another gender. Just as some no doubt convince their kids that they are gay just to brag about it.

As far back as the 1970's, there were feminist activists trying to get parents to give their boys dolls to play with while giving their daughters "boy toys."

What a contrast to my third grade teacher, who wouldn't allow the boys to get anywhere near the jump ropes--used exclusively by girls--because "the boys like to play cowboys."

23 posted on 05/28/2013 12:42:50 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: faithhopecharity
All part of Marxism.
Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc..
— Communist Manifesto, Plank 10

(T)he church is separated from the state and the school from the church.
— USSR constitution

The state protects normal religious activities. No one may make use of religion to engage in activities that disrupt public order, impair the health of citizens or interfere with the educational system of the state.
Constitution of the People’s Republic of China

24 posted on 05/28/2013 12:47:52 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: nickcarraway
If you see your daughter playing with a truck, do you think that's normal, or do you decide she is crying out to be a boy, and go from there?

My first daughter, when 2 or so, was so into tools and similar for play, people thought we had a boy and a girl when they saw our play room. She routinely saw Dad with tools fixing or building and she wanted to do the same in her play.

The second daughter, would have no part of that. As girly as she could be. Only Baby dolls and kitchen stuff was the play toys she wanted.

Now that oldest is very girly, into fashion and dance, cannot tolerate getting in the dirt.

The other, now 12, is far more into being outdoors, camping etc, but horses are now her love.

25 posted on 05/28/2013 12:49:24 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Olog-hai

If they’re still confused, they just need to listen to the little kid in Kindergarten Cop. “Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina.”


26 posted on 05/28/2013 12:50:14 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (What difference does it make?)
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t think you understood what I meant, and I’m not talking about adults, but about little children. An example of crossing “gender” boundaries: a young boy might not know that the social directives for “masculinity” require him to act as if he’s indifferent to the suffering of others, or he might not have fully assimilated his role. He might start to cry in sympathy when a friend is hurt or unhappy.

As an example of confusion over biology, one of my sons used to refer to a time “when I was a girl,” by which he meant before his hair was cut. It was simply explained to him that he had always been a boy, and the length of his hair was not what determined this.


27 posted on 05/28/2013 12:50:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

When I was a kid, I wanted to be the Hulk. Didn’t mean I went out of my way to try to irradiate myself . . .


28 posted on 05/28/2013 12:50:39 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: nickcarraway

That’s exactly what I meant.


29 posted on 05/28/2013 12:51:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Veggie Todd

I like your responses.

I was thinking along the same lines.

If you can pee standing up, you’re probably a boy !!


30 posted on 05/28/2013 12:56:19 PM PDT by RightWingNut
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To: Fiji Hill

You are correct. Sex is a biological fact. Gender is how you feel.


31 posted on 05/28/2013 12:59:40 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

There are cultures that use neck rings stacked up on neck rings in order to elongate a tribal member’s neck - mostly women, I believe. Might this be a related phenomenon?


32 posted on 05/28/2013 1:00:29 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Fiji Hill; Jack Hydrazine

Gender is not how you feel. It’s a grammatical term.


33 posted on 05/28/2013 1:01:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Olog-hai

Maybe our public school “educators” need a training session of their own.... perhaps “Tiny” Tony Wiener could show them the difference between a boy and a girl?

(such as it may be, in his case)


34 posted on 05/28/2013 1:02:59 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, I know.

Sex is male, female/boy, girl/man, woman.

Gender is grammatical term - masculine, neuter, or feminine - that applies to words.

But Leftists love to hijack words for their own agenda.


35 posted on 05/28/2013 1:05:24 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Olog-hai

No they dont. Confused kids need to get unconfused, quick. It isn’t alright, it isn’t OK, it isn’t normal. Young children see and know what normal is. We are supposed to raise our children to be part of normal society, not to be outcast freaks! This is child abuse in my book!


36 posted on 05/28/2013 1:11:30 PM PDT by vpintheak (We are the chosen few! Be thankful for it!)
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To: nickcarraway; Fiji Hill; Jack Hydrazine
Gender is not how you feel. It’s a grammatical term.

True, but it's not just a grammatical term. "Gender" also refers to standards and behaviors associated with the sexes. That's why we can say certain qualities are "masculine," even if the person doing them is a woman. These judgments are socially determined and variable, while sex is genetically determined and fixed.

In my opinion, our present culture divides "masculine" and "feminine" in very limited and unproductive ways, and this contributes to the situation in which we seem to have many people, especially young people, socially defining themselves as "neuter" ... what we'd call "metrosexual" for a man and ... I'm not sure what the term is for women, but "slovenly" often comes to mind, when I see women in the Walmart in pajama pants and hoodies.

All virtuous and patriotic attitudes and behaviors should be expected of both sexes - "neuter" in gender. Something is wrong when a courageous and determined woman is described as "ballsy"!

37 posted on 05/28/2013 1:11:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Olog-hai

What happened to OUR strength is in our DIVERSITY? Men and women are different. Homosexuals don’t want to accept that.


38 posted on 05/28/2013 1:11:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Olog-hai

We are born completely naked. Clothing is determined by fashion and social custom. There is no “wear the clothes of the opposite sex” gene.


39 posted on 05/28/2013 1:13:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

Heh. Only liberals get to define “diversity”, especially where it means “divergent” or “deviant”.


40 posted on 05/28/2013 1:13:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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