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House Armed Services Committee: Army Must Complete Individual Carbine Competition
Guns.com ^ | June 7, 2013 | Max Slowik

Posted on 06/12/2013 5:51:38 PM PDT by re_tail20

The House Armed Services Committee voted unanimously on an amendment to the 2014 National Defense Authorization Act that would require the Army to finish phase III of the Individual Carbine competition. The competition would determine if, and what rifle may replace the M4 in service today.

The Individual Carbine competition began over five years ago and has pitted offerings from top-tier companies against each other to find out if newer carbines perform better than what’s in use currently, including Colt, FNH, Heckler & Koch, KAC and Remington.

In 2012 the Army began phase II of the competition, having narrowed their selections down to the the Adcor Defense BEAR Elite, the Beretta ARX-160, and the Colt Enhanced M4, FN FNAC, the Heckler & Koch HK416A5 and the Remington ACR, to see if they outperformed the M4A1.

Earlier this year, however, the program was audited by the Defense Department, which determined that the costs of the final trials were inconsistent with the existing M4 upgrade Product Improvement Program (PIP) and found that the Army, which is already facing cutbacks, should push the $49 million set aside for phase III back upstream for other uses.

In May, the Army issued a statement that they in consideration of the audit that they would suspend further evaluation of replacement rifles. The program was suspended, not to see further trials.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: armycarbine; banglist
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1 posted on 06/12/2013 5:51:38 PM PDT by re_tail20
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Pictures are coming.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 5:51:56 PM PDT by re_tail20
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3 posted on 06/12/2013 5:53:02 PM PDT by re_tail20
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IBTP


4 posted on 06/12/2013 5:54:26 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: re_tail20

Having trouble with individual pictures.

All five guns can be viewed at this link.

http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/archive/2013/march/Pages/IndustryShootingforArmy’sFirstNewRifleinHalfCentury.aspx


5 posted on 06/12/2013 5:54:40 PM PDT by re_tail20
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Can the M-14 Compete? /s

(My Favorite Long Gun of all time, then it’s the 1911 45, am I showing my age?)

TT


6 posted on 06/12/2013 5:55:21 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: re_tail20

Going by pure aesthetics, the Beretta is one odd-looking weapon, but it would be a nice Evil Black Rifle to carry around.


7 posted on 06/12/2013 5:56:25 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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1911 being the side arm if folks want to be picky

TT


8 posted on 06/12/2013 5:56:49 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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I’ve been following this for a while. Even though it’s stacked against the contenders, in favor of the M4 or the M4A1, our Soldiers, I think and feel, deserve a carbine, if not a rifle, with a piston, so it would be as resistant as possible to sand, mud, and snow. All five guns fit this criteria, even the upgraded M4 with a piston.


9 posted on 06/12/2013 5:57:22 PM PDT by re_tail20
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In their attempt to stay in compliance with the U.S. Constitution, I expect Barry and his toads at the Pentagon to select the Kentucky Long Rifle.


10 posted on 06/12/2013 5:57:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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The Army is two thirds done already with this project. Despite the sequester, it should finish it and make the results public, if nothing else.


11 posted on 06/12/2013 5:58:21 PM PDT by re_tail20
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The Army damn sure needs to up the calibre of any future rifle.The 5.56 is just to weak against drugged up thugs.

They should have learned that in Iraq fighting the drugged up terror creeps.


12 posted on 06/12/2013 6:01:22 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: TexasTransplant

Your favorites are also mine, and I’m old. Carried both in combat. Not the carbine, but the M16. One of these choices is French made.........it looks nice, but Hell No!


13 posted on 06/12/2013 6:02:50 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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The Army insisted on only 5.56 mm for testing purposes. Multiple calibers are an option after selection.


14 posted on 06/12/2013 6:08:07 PM PDT by re_tail20
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To: TexasTransplant

Can the M-14 Compete? /s

(My Favorite Long Gun of all time, then it’s the 1911 45, am I showing my age?)

TT

Amen Bro., I was issued an M14 as my first weapon and had it for a short while before they took it away and gave an M16. Man how I loved that weapon, in armed combat I want an M14, I fired it a lot and never had a failure, misfire or jam. It is rugged and reliable, can do the job handily up close and can still reach way out there and touch someone. If you can see that far.
I guess I’m showing my age too but the older one gets the more they appreciate a good weapon to rely on.

GOD BLESS


15 posted on 06/12/2013 6:12:25 PM PDT by RAWGUY
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The problem with the 5.56 in the M4 is that short barrel along with a heavy bullet just doesn’t get enough velocity to be effective.

I think with a 20 inch barrel it has been fine. If you have to go slower, then a larger caliber should do better.


16 posted on 06/12/2013 6:12:47 PM PDT by yarddog (There Are Three Things That Remain--Faith, Hope, and Love--and,the Greatest of These is Love..)
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17 posted on 06/12/2013 6:17:57 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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My hat is off to you. I have to check my picture posting process.


18 posted on 06/12/2013 6:20:19 PM PDT by re_tail20
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no no no i couldn’t get it either so i stole it and put it in photobucket and uploaded from there ;-)


19 posted on 06/12/2013 6:22:07 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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How about the Tavor? That would PO Obama.


20 posted on 06/12/2013 6:28:16 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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