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Steven Spielberg Predicts "Implosion" Of Film Industry
The Hollywood Reporter ^ | June 13, 2013 | Paul Bond

Posted on 06/13/2013 4:10:57 AM PDT by Biggirl

Steven Spielberg on Wednesday predicted an "implosion" in the film industry is inevitable, whereby a half dozen or so $250 million movies flop at the box office and alter the industry forever. What comes next -- or even before then -- will be price variances at movie theaters, where "you're gonna have to pay $25 for the next Iron Man, you're probably only going to have to pay $7 to see Lincoln." He also said that Lincoln came "this close" to being an HBO movie instead of a theatrical release.

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Business/Economy; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: hollywood; movies; spielberg
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1 posted on 06/13/2013 4:10:57 AM PDT by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl
No, Speilburg is reading some very clear and obtuse writing on the wall.
2 posted on 06/13/2013 4:12:42 AM PDT by knarf (<p>Gimmee my share.)
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To: Biggirl

At $25 a pop, people will wait for it to be on BluRay.

Or not go.


3 posted on 06/13/2013 4:13:46 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: knarf

somehow my tag keeps getting changed


4 posted on 06/13/2013 4:13:59 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Biggirl

Speilberg and his associates aided the coup d’etat
against the American people and their allies.


5 posted on 06/13/2013 4:14:47 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: redgolum

Especially given the size of new TVs, the elaborate sound systems, and that a family can watch that BluRay for $25, while the movie is $100+.


6 posted on 06/13/2013 4:15:45 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Biggirl

I’ve thought for a long time that true entrepreneurs would break the grip Hollywood has on entertainment and enter this market and give us much better product at a lower price.

Dinosaurs always die.


7 posted on 06/13/2013 4:17:56 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: redgolum

Or most likely get a pirated copy.


8 posted on 06/13/2013 4:18:19 AM PDT by NH Red
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To: drbuzzard

.....Or regular DVD.


9 posted on 06/13/2013 4:18:57 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

Heck, that takes it down to $15-


10 posted on 06/13/2013 4:23:43 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Biggirl

I would not pay anything to see a movie today.
I get several movie channels via my satellite service, but they are mostly garbage with little more then mass killing and explosions.
What was the last movie with the class of “Gone With the Wind”?


11 posted on 06/13/2013 4:25:15 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: knarf

Making a traditional movie is following a big business socialist model and that’s why it’s expensive. The unions demand outrageous pay for jobs no more complicated or involved than moving scenery or running wires. The writer’s guild has a hammerlock on screenplays and the cost of those is through the roof. The cost of everything else is scaled to the big expense drivers. “What, you’re making a 250 million movie? Well, the cost of shooting in our city is 30 million.” (When it could be done for the cost of shutting down a street or two on a Saturday morning.) Then there’s the tax structure and the depreciation schedules. Read the credits that run for 20 minutes, “second grip assistant to the first grip, John Smith.”

How is it that really good movies can be made for chicken scratch so long as they’re outside of the studio system? Take “Army of the Dead.” No name actors and shot for almost nothing. Then when the same guys start making money and enter the system the quality of the film footage goes up but the story gets politically corrected, focus-grouped, test-audience-d, and watered down so it won’t offend anybody.

Films can be made for much less. But first the current system must be allowed to fail.


12 posted on 06/13/2013 4:26:36 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: AlexW
They don't even do that anymore. It's just the same plots over and over and then in most cases there is no plot. There is just sex, explosions, blood and death.

There is still a lot of talent in Hollywood, they are just never given a chance.

There needs to be some place where people can make entertaining movies......with a plot.....and talented actors.

13 posted on 06/13/2013 4:30:08 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Gen.Blather

Music biz is the same. Some of the best and most innovative music today is by one or two man shops with a laptop and a copy of Guitar rig/Pro tools.

The big studios are closing or being sold off ala newspapers. The industry refuses to adapt to current realities and is / has been imploding.


14 posted on 06/13/2013 4:32:42 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: NH Red
Don't get a pirated copy, that would be wrong and illegal.

Call your friends at NSA and get a gov’t copy ...

Most movies are now sent by studios to theaters by encrypted links.

15 posted on 06/13/2013 4:38:01 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Gen.Blather
. . . so it won’t offend anybody.

It's still OK to offend Christians and conservatives. In fact, they go out of their way to do so.

16 posted on 06/13/2013 4:38:25 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Shortly after I got my first computer, I got into a "What was it like back then" phase of rock n' roll stars and recordings.

One of the more fascinating aspects about music of the fiftie's and early sixties was the techniques used to produce some familiar sounds we remember today.

A lot of Elvis (f'rinstance) recorded in a hallway in a little studio on a hot summer day in Memphis ... to produce that echo effect

17 posted on 06/13/2013 4:38:44 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Biggirl

Avg used DVD on Amazon is probably about 2.50, with 2.99 shipping.

Then you can watch it when you want - watch it as many times as you want - give it away if you want

Whatever.

And movies now hit the DVD rack just a couple weeks after release.

I haven’t been to a theatre for probably 12 years.


18 posted on 06/13/2013 4:39:10 AM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: Gen.Blather
the quality of the film footage goes up but the story gets politically corrected, focus-grouped, test-audience-d, and watered down so it won’t offend anybody.

Not offend anybody? They forgot to check with me. Apparently part of the political correction process is to make sure it has the requisite amount of profanity and illicit sexual encounters.

19 posted on 06/13/2013 4:39:24 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: Gen.Blather
Films can be made for much less. But first the current system must be allowed to fail.

Why hasn't the internet come up with a business model for selling these films?

Look at the ebook industry where authors are becoming rich and famous for selling their 99c novels on amazon.

20 posted on 06/13/2013 4:40:41 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: Biggirl

I would never in a lifetime pay 25 bucks for a movie ticket.


21 posted on 06/13/2013 4:42:58 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Drawsing

“Not offend anybody? They forgot to check with me. Apparently part of the political correction process is to make sure it has the requisite amount of profanity and illicit sexual encounters. “

I’m a tad out of touch. I threw away my TV during the OJ trial and haven’t watched any since. But I have seen clips from (I think) Family Guy and they were disgusting. Also, somebody gave me a movie I think was called “Team America” and I thought I’d throw up. I have attempted to see a few movies in the theater, but when the buddy cops playfully point their loaded guns at each other, I walk out.


22 posted on 06/13/2013 4:43:59 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: knarf

Today you simply load up an impulse response file for a convolution reverb VST and get any hall you like ;)

I do electronic music as a hobby. The sheer power to record amd make music in even a low end laptop is amazing. Sure, the ‘real’ stuff is better. But tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands better? No.


23 posted on 06/13/2013 4:44:03 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Biggirl

Well, maybe you should stop releasing crap then, huh, guys?


24 posted on 06/13/2013 4:44:14 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Biggirl

The TV industry is already imploding.

They cancelled/ended 38 series this season. Many of those were pulled after only a couple of episodes.

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Perhaps the problem is Hollywood, in general, and the lack of original ideas.


25 posted on 06/13/2013 4:45:34 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Irenic

Haven’t been to a movie cinema in nearly 10 years. Don’t plan to again.


26 posted on 06/13/2013 4:45:35 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Norm Lenhart

I just thought it was neat what inovations produced sounds we dug and paid for.


27 posted on 06/13/2013 4:47:34 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: drbuzzard

I wait for most of them to show up on Showtime or Starz or Netflix.


28 posted on 06/13/2013 4:47:39 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: redgolum

At $25 a pop, people will wait for it to be on BluRay.

Or not go.


I have a blue ray player and a measley 46” flat screen and stereo only. The ONLY reason I will ever darken the doorway of a theater now is 3D IMAX. At home there is no drive, no parking hassle, cheap popcorn, no illness laden and rude people. Etc.

It was our last two theater experiences that pushed me over the edge. That was a little over a year ago.

And, honestly, the sound is better and the picture sharper at home. Oh, and I rent blue ray’s for free at the library on my way home from work.


29 posted on 06/13/2013 4:48:44 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: drbuzzard

Especially given the size of new TVs, the elaborate sound systems, and that a family can watch that BluRay for $25, while the movie is $100+.


We don’t even buy movies any more unless they are obscure, e.g. Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia.

We can rent for free from the library, and it’s on my way home from work.


30 posted on 06/13/2013 4:50:01 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: AlexW

You got that right.

The last movie I went to see, James Bond’s “Skyfall”, one of the best Bond movies. Otherwise I just am not into movies too much now, since my longtime boyfriend has passed on.


31 posted on 06/13/2013 4:50:12 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: knarf

Oh absolutely! It’s a fascinating subject!


32 posted on 06/13/2013 4:51:06 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: redgolum

> At $25 a pop, people will wait for it to be on BluRay.

Or not go.

I sure won’t. Everything has gone up in price by several orders of magnitude under 0’s watch. It’s not like it will affect him or his cronies in the slightest but it is beating the hell out of regular people’s wallets everyday.


33 posted on 06/13/2013 4:52:35 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: McGavin999

I really liked Run Lola Run, and I’m betting that movie was made on the cheap.

Come to think of it, a lot of the movies I’ve really enjoyed were almost certainly not terribly expensive to make. I mean the movies that really left a mark based on characters and story.

It’s funny, coming from a guy that watched the original Star Wars 28 times in the theater, but Special effect are just the icing on the cake for me now. e.g. Serenity had some great special effects, but what made the movie great was the character development and the story. The story was true science fiction and the characters and their interaction was wonderful.


34 posted on 06/13/2013 4:54:20 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Black Agnes

Yeah, the last time I went was 6? 7? years ago? It wasn’t worth it. Most movies just aren’t that good nowadays, especially for the value. Even at home I watch more old than new movies.


35 posted on 06/13/2013 4:55:39 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Biggirl

Why are movie stars so overpaid then? There is a profitability problem within the industry clearly, and a major part of the expenditure on any given film is the stars’ wage bill. Time for them all to take a paycut methinks, as they do not reflect their real value to their employers.


36 posted on 06/13/2013 4:55:41 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: ClaytonP

“Why hasn’t the internet come up with a business model for selling these films?

Look at the ebook industry where authors are becoming rich and famous for selling their 99c novels on amazon. “

Film making is a very collaborative effort. The startup cost is probably in the several million range for used equipment. It is also highly regulated, which means lawyers. In addition, the “traditional” film venues would probably attack any newcomer. Your average person, who might make a bang-up director, or writer, or actor may not be equally competent for all those roles and how do the collaborators put food on the table while working on their project?

It can be done for a fraction of the current money, but that fraction is still unobtainably high for the average person.


37 posted on 06/13/2013 4:56:35 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: McGavin999

> There needs to be some place where people can make entertaining movies......with a plot.....and talented actors.

Hollywood has not figured out that CG and sex scenes cannot take the place of a good plot yet, obviously.,The old movies had good plots, character development, storylines, and honored family values. There’s a reason that many people keep watching the old reruns like I Love Lucy and I Dream of Jeannie (hey they never showed her belly button once during the whole show)


38 posted on 06/13/2013 5:01:58 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: IamConservative
Perhaps we will start getting better quality movies from China, India, Korea and Japan.
39 posted on 06/13/2013 5:02:40 AM PDT by Average Al ( Our founder fathers never knew we could fail due to a Techtatorship.)
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To: redgolum
At $25 a pop, people will wait for it to be on BluRay. Or not go.

We usually hit matinees and sneak water and candy in. That makes it about $13 for the both of us. If we buy a water and a popcorn, it more than doubles the cost. I'm starting to consider buying a show or two off the DIREC TV system - $5 bucks or so and don't have to sneak anything. Theaters are going to put themselves out of business. Then Hollywood will make movies and try to charge $15K a pop for a viewing ...

40 posted on 06/13/2013 5:05:58 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Irenic

> I would never in a lifetime pay 25 bucks for a movie ticket.

Neither would I but to those rich liberals that’s nothing. They don’t understand the depth of damage that 0 has done to our nation because they’re really not affected by the rampant inflation (though they will not call it that) and increases in lthe prices of goods and services because they live in their own insulated bubble. It’s just a few more dollars to them while we have to give up things to be able to pay our bills. Only when they feel the same pain will they sit up and take notice.


41 posted on 06/13/2013 5:09:18 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Gen.Blather; knarf
The unions demand outrageous pay for jobs no more complicated or involved than moving scenery or running wires.

Why pick on the working man?

What about the actors, who get paid a zillion times more for doing even less work?

42 posted on 06/13/2013 5:10:28 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Irenic

For $25. one can see live theater by professionals during the summer months in an historic, and restored façade theater in southern Michigan.


43 posted on 06/13/2013 5:11:58 AM PDT by healy61
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To: Biggirl

With a great sound system you can have a better enjoyment at home. Skyfall was good, The Dark Knight Rises was excellent, Les Miserables was good and a few others. You can rent them for $1 at Redbox.


44 posted on 06/13/2013 5:14:41 AM PDT by bray (Stop tolerating beheading!)
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To: jsanders2001

Even if I had money coming out of my ears, I wouldn’t pay twenty five bucks for a movie ticket. Besides, they mostly make movies for Hollywood nowadays, not for middle America.


45 posted on 06/13/2013 5:17:01 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Biggirl

I have watched on TV or gone to the theater, about one movie per year.

And I have to be dragged to THAT movie.

Hollywood is ridiculous and filthy. There is no way I am supporting them in any form or fashion.


46 posted on 06/13/2013 5:17:10 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: knarf
A lot of Elvis (f'rinstance) recorded in a hallway in a little studio on a hot summer day in Memphis ... to produce that echo effect

Was that how "I Want You, I Need You, I Love You" and "Heartbreak Hotel" were recorded?

47 posted on 06/13/2013 5:27:43 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Biggirl

>>>”you’re probably only going to have to pay $7 to see Lincoln.”

Actually, I wouldn’t pay anything to see Lincoln.

Spielberg has made pretentiously overblown predictions about the film industry in the past (such as claiming that the new digital technologies will bring “new kinds of stories that we’ve never seen before”). He was wrong then — the new digital technologies simply make it easier (and to some extent, cheaper) to tell the same sorts of stories we’ve seen since Adam and Eve committed the sin of disobedience — he is probably wrong now. The fact is, no one can really predict what sort of business model the film industry will adopt. It’s not his decision to make, after all.


48 posted on 06/13/2013 5:28:33 AM PDT by GoodDay
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To: Biggirl

I haven’t paid to see their liberal propaganda and filth in years.


49 posted on 06/13/2013 5:29:36 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: knarf

You’d probably be interested in the you tube video of the Making of 10cc’s “I’m Not in Love.” Absolutely amazing what Eric Stewart went through to create the wonderous backing vocals and ethereal presence. Check it out.


50 posted on 06/13/2013 5:33:38 AM PDT by gnickgnack2 (QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
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