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Ginsberg Offers Rare Peek With Beatnik Family Album
SF Examiner ^ | June 13, 2013 | Lauren Gallagher

Posted on 06/16/2013 5:02:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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The best minds of my generation blah blah blah
1 posted on 06/16/2013 5:02:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I think he appeared on “Politically Incorrect”.

https://www.google.com/search?q=allen%20ginsberg%20site%3Ayoutube.com&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8


2 posted on 06/16/2013 5:05:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: nickcarraway

Like Kerouac, highly over rated and utterly unreadable...


3 posted on 06/16/2013 5:10:37 PM PDT by massatoosits
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To: nickcarraway
If I was Jewish and found that this malodorous clown was being heralded by a Jewish museum I'd demand that he be declared an honorary atheist or Buddhist or something.
4 posted on 06/16/2013 5:13:07 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: nickcarraway

Give me Elizabeth Bishop or Robert Hayden or Robert Lowell, anyone not connected to the free verse crap associated with the spoiled brats that came out of the 50’s and 60’s....


5 posted on 06/16/2013 5:17:51 PM PDT by massatoosits
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To: Gay State Conservative

I respectfully beg to differ. As a person, who is both a lover of poetry and a published poet myself, I consider Ginsberg to be one of the truly great poets that America has produced, and I am absolutely not ashamed to admit it.

I have always preferred to focus most of my regard for Ginsberg on his work rather than on the lifestyle that he chose to live. Conservative or liberal, many writers and artists make poor choices in their personal lives, and indeed some can be or have been quite repulsive in their own ways.

Al Capp and Ernest Hemingway immediately come to mind for examples of more conservative writers, who were nevertheless not exactly all sunshine and roses in their personal lives.


6 posted on 06/16/2013 5:20:20 PM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: massatoosits

The worst!


7 posted on 06/16/2013 5:21:48 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Kriggerel
Sorry...the stream of consciousness style of Ginsberg is jarring and without any song to it...it is barking, not writing...
8 posted on 06/16/2013 5:26:14 PM PDT by massatoosits
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To: Gay State Conservative

“malodorous clown”....best put down of the year so far...


9 posted on 06/16/2013 5:28:32 PM PDT by massatoosits
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To: Kriggerel
"Attacks on NAMBLA stink of politics, witchhunting for profit, humorlessness, vanity, anger and ignorance ... I'm a member of NAMBLA because I love boys too -- everybody does, who has a little humanity."

~ Allen Ginsberg, poet.

10 posted on 06/16/2013 5:49:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: massatoosits

” Like Kerouac, highly over rated ..”

I beg to differ . BTW - how many of his books have you read ???


11 posted on 06/16/2013 6:03:57 PM PDT by sushiman
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they made it to FR.

“we’re the Beatniks now”
my tagline since the NOV ‘12 defeat


12 posted on 06/16/2013 6:11:21 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: sushiman
Enough of both to not find any liking there for me. I am not in the habit of talking about let alone critiquing that which I have not made myself familiar with...
13 posted on 06/16/2013 6:19:15 PM PDT by massatoosits
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To: Kriggerel

I’ve written some research work on Ginsberg, and while I find Howl to be a really incredible poem, much of Ginsbergs other work is not impressive. I tend to agree with Kerouak that “Beat” wasn’t what Ginsberg tried to craft it to be, but was really a New Romantism.

Howl is one hell of a poem though!


14 posted on 06/16/2013 6:20:48 PM PDT by struggle
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To: massatoosits

So the fact you don’t like him automatically means he is over-rated ??? He was a great influence on many musicians and other writers , too , but you probably wouldn’t like them either .


15 posted on 06/16/2013 6:31:02 PM PDT by sushiman
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No. The fact is that he was embraced by a socio-political group think crowd that sought to bring a change to the current culture by proclaiming some to be worthy while others are not. The old rules of defining both good writing and good poetry were tossed out for the sake of elevating some over others. This is my complaint. I might even say the same about the “many musicians and other writers” as well. This is still a free country where we can have our differences, I think...
16 posted on 06/16/2013 6:40:59 PM PDT by massatoosits
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To: nickcarraway

Alan Ginsberg was a fake poet and a fake guru. A mess of cliche archetypes pushed his pencil around in circles. The only Beat poet of any real consequence was Robert Kaufman. That boy had the Muse Calliope sitting on his shoulder piping ocarina melodies straight to the helmsman.


17 posted on 06/16/2013 7:12:27 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: massatoosits

On the Road was one of the first books I fell in love with when I started reading seriously as a teenager in the 70’s. Kerouac became one of my favourite writers and he helped to give me a love of literature ( BTW I’ve read everything he wrote ). I can’t think of any other writer who has inspired me with such a feeling of optimism and the desire to go and live life to the full. He is the only writer I can think of who does this. It’s depressing that I can’t think of any other good writer who is able to inspire this feeling.


18 posted on 06/16/2013 7:12:48 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: nickcarraway

Ginsberg is one of the reasons the gays have taken over our culture.


19 posted on 06/16/2013 7:14:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: massatoosits

Ha! I’ll second that ...


20 posted on 06/16/2013 7:14:27 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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