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A real war on women: lies about reading
AllVoices ^ | May 28, 2013 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 06/27/2013 6:07:55 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice

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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

I remember reading about a study that was conducted where they had volunteers work with children after school having the children read to them. And what they found was that the children’s reading improved rapidly, meaning that the main problem most children have is that they are learning to read, however they are not practicing enough to build solid skills.


21 posted on 06/27/2013 7:43:39 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: dynachrome

At least she can write.......


22 posted on 06/27/2013 8:46:35 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: kabumpo

Your kid taught himself phonics.


23 posted on 06/27/2013 10:03:30 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: goodwithagun

As I teacher I teach phonics exclusively. Working with Latin + Greek with grade 8s. Teaching them how to break down scientific terminology in order to understand it.

Public schools? What public schools.


24 posted on 06/27/2013 10:06:11 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Smokin' Joe

Reading is simply teaching the kids to decode what they already know. They understand the sounds. They need to be able to attach the sounds to the words.


25 posted on 06/27/2013 10:07:48 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge

What kid? I don’t have one.


26 posted on 06/27/2013 10:22:06 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Smokin' Joe said: "Teach the rules, then the exceptions...

Exactly.

When my girls were little I bought a set of flashcards which were the 330 most common words. I sorted through them, picking out those which were phonetically spelled.

Only when the girls had mastered this did I begin introducing the words which were exceptional.

When my youngest started kindergarten, my wife and I suggested that she be transferred to a first grade class. The teachers and principal assured us that it was unlikely that this would be in her best interest, so we allowed them to have their way.

About four weeks later we got a call from the school. They recommended that our daughter be transferred to a first grade class. It seems that our daughter was distracting some of the class by reading to them during their play times.

As some have pointed out, there are people who have no trouble memorizing the words they need to read. Those who can't do this are being victimized by education charlatans who think one size fits all.

27 posted on 06/27/2013 10:24:43 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: kabumpo
I had a completely different experience learning to read whole words, and took to it like a duck to water.

That was exactly my experience. I had no problems learning to read whole words. Once I discovered Hardy Boys novels there was no turning back.

Still, unlike some aggressive Phonics proselytizers, I am willing to accept that others may learn differently than I do.

28 posted on 06/27/2013 11:36:03 PM PDT by TChad
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

This is one of the reasons why parents are leaving the public schools in droves. Home schooling is growing 7 times faster than public school enrollment.

We have a large home schooling population in my town (who knew?) and our schools are supposed to be “excellent.” The classical charter school in a neighboring county has poor, immigrant children who do better on their tests then our county’s wealthiest, top-rated town.

People are getting fed up and doing something about it, and the public schools are going to go begging.


29 posted on 06/28/2013 6:05:25 AM PDT by goldi
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To: TChad; kabumpo; All
1) A tiny percentage of people have photographic memories and might indeed learn to read with sight-words.

2) Most people who think they learned to read with sight-words actually did something different. They grasped the phonics inside the sight-words, solved the mystery of phonetic language, and proceeded normally.

3) If one does have a freaky ability, why mention that to other people who are struggling with more normal situations? I don't get the point. We can't extrapolate from someone's atypical experience to how we should organize public schools.

4) Thanks for the many smart comments. Yes, phonics is the only way. Yes, please start early so you can inoculate your kids against what might happen in the public schools. (For the basics on teaching young children to read, see "Preemptive Reading." http://www.improve-education.org/id81.html )
30 posted on 06/28/2013 10:30:13 AM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

As I said, I have nothing like a photographic memory,quite the opposite - so please stop repeating that meme. You are coming on like a fanatic.
I call what you say nonsense - bordering on lunacy - because not one person I grew up with ever had a reading problem. Not one. And some of them came into school not even speaking English, the children of Polish, Japanese Yugoslav and French diplomatic staff. They were all speaking and reading English within six months.


31 posted on 06/28/2013 9:03:18 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
A tiny percentage of people have photographic memories...

Don't I wish.

Sorry, but we don't all belong to your religion.

32 posted on 06/28/2013 9:14:01 PM PDT by TChad
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