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It's going to be incredibly hard to replicate discussion-based, Ivy-level humanities classes. But given the job market many liberal arts students are facing, there's more value in replicating STEM courses:


2 posted on 06/28/2013 11:06:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I’m working toward an associates degree in Criminal justice at a local community college. It’s a mixture of in class and online courses and the credits I earn will be transferable to the bigger colleges like UVM.I see no difference between the quality of the online classes versus in class.


3 posted on 06/28/2013 11:13:37 AM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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"It's going to be incredibly hard to replicate discussion-based, Ivy-level humanities classes."

True. There's nothing like sitting with an enormous number of students while listening to a bored instructor's monotone lecture.


8 posted on 06/28/2013 11:34:41 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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My daughter is an arts major. I have many discussions with her and her classmates about their post graduate prospects. To a person, their expectations for salary are very low. They could actually be higher. There are no, zero, nada, delusions that they are going make a ton of money.

So, to present their degree and the salary prospects as if that was a major consideration is really kind of a BS argument.

The funny thing is that the application process for “art” school was more competitive and “in your face mean” than any college admission process I had seen. To get into a world class art program is as competitive as any top tier business education university. They simply look at different skill sets.

Many folks think of it as finger painting every day. They do not see the chemistry of pigments, the physics of kilns, the discipline and workload of any military school I’ve seen, and the marketing aspects of presenting and selling their work.

If you think the critique of a grad level case study in Mgmt 503 is harsh—the critiques of art projects are brutal and they are designed to make the student improve and toughen up for the harshness of the art world. The mental toughness of these kids just blows me away.

I am not trying to convince anyone that art school is the best investment of school loans—but comparing outcomes without discussing expectations is a rookie mistake in presenting information like this.


9 posted on 06/28/2013 11:36:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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And there’s the criminal under-culture attracted to college/university towns, pressure to attend binge drinking parties and clubs that include drugs, rapes, living in an expensive, fleabag apartment and so on.


12 posted on 06/28/2013 11:38:26 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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