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Savage: You have to find Zimmerman Guilty (audio)
conservativebyte.com ^ | 7/5/2013 | unk

Posted on 07/06/2013 7:29:00 PM PDT by Signalman

This is a strange analysis from someone who is usually pretty conservative. He is claiming some things that the prosecution isn’t even presenting. Even if what Savage is saying is true, I’m not sure how that changes what happened. Check it out:

On his show on, talk show host Michael Savage said that George Zimmerman, who is currently on trial for the murder of Trayvon Martin, should be found guilty of second-degree manslaughter based on two things: 1) The state of his firearm and 2) The language he allegedly used on a 911 call when he was first reporting his suspicions about Martin.

But first Savage explained why his insight should be valued over others in the media covering the trial.

“I’m about to break an analysis that no one yet in the media has done, as you would expect from me — being the senior member of the American media and possibly the most insightful,” Savage said. “And I have to blow my own horn because everyone else tries to break my horn.”


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KEYWORDS: communistzelot; ethnomedicine; fakeconservative; leftwingsavage; michaelsavage; michaelweiner; michaelwhiner; savage; usefulidiot; uselessidiot; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/06/2013 7:29:00 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

Umm, no we don’t.


2 posted on 07/06/2013 7:30:25 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Signalman

Savage is becoming a useless idiot.


3 posted on 07/06/2013 7:30:31 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: Signalman

I love Michael Savage but on this he hasn’t a clue of what he’s talking about.


4 posted on 07/06/2013 7:31:30 PM PDT by IChing
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To: Signalman

5 posted on 07/06/2013 7:32:11 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: DirtyPigpen

IMHO Savage was always a useless idiot.


6 posted on 07/06/2013 7:33:06 PM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: Signalman

Just what we need. A squishy doofus pseudo intellectual conservative telling us we are wrong.

FUMS


7 posted on 07/06/2013 7:33:19 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Signalman

Savagely irresponsible. Being ill informed is one thing, spouting inflammatory lies is another.


8 posted on 07/06/2013 7:34:55 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Signalman

Savage claims here, only one minute into this, that Zimmerman is “guilty of what he’s charged with—manslaughter.”

Zimmerman is NOT charged with manslaughter, he’s charged with 2nd degree murder.

Savage has lost his mind. He gets so much wrong here it’s pathetic.


9 posted on 07/06/2013 7:34:57 PM PDT by IChing
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To: iowamark

Isn’t he running for NYC Mayor?


10 posted on 07/06/2013 7:35:11 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: iowamark

Everybody loves an Oscar Meyer wiener, but Micheal Wiener is another matter.


11 posted on 07/06/2013 7:35:35 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Signalman

12 posted on 07/06/2013 7:36:12 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Signalman

Sure seems like Michael Wiener here is leaving himself open to a libel suit.


13 posted on 07/06/2013 7:36:25 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: IChing

savage likes to distance himself from the crowd especially the other conservative media.....just like he does before elections when he is so squimish and squishy.....


14 posted on 07/06/2013 7:37:51 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Signalman

Yeah, who would want to walk around with a round chambered. When confronted, I prefer to dramatically rack the slide, and turn my gat to the side, gangsta style.


15 posted on 07/06/2013 7:38:05 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: DirtyPigpen

Becoming? You should hear his anti-Israel rants.


16 posted on 07/06/2013 7:38:35 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Fzob

True.


17 posted on 07/06/2013 7:38:46 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: iowamark

18 posted on 07/06/2013 7:38:57 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Signalman

Give it up fleabag, your ratings will never come back.


19 posted on 07/06/2013 7:40:06 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Olog-hai

He’s not on around here. All I know is bits and pieces I have heard of him over the years. Seems the more I hear, the less I like. Ain’t he from New York?


20 posted on 07/06/2013 7:41:16 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: martin_fierro

I’m an epidemiologist!


21 posted on 07/06/2013 7:41:21 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Signalman

He needs to change his meds up...


22 posted on 07/06/2013 7:42:03 PM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: IChing

“Savage claims here, only one minute into this, that Zimmerman is “guilty of what he’s charged with—manslaughter.”

Zimmerman is NOT charged with manslaughter, he’s charged with 2nd degree murder.”

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I listened to the audio closely and he does not say anything relating to Z being “charged” with manslaughter.

He says,”you have to find this man guilty of 2nd degree manslaughter” He doesn’t say he was charged with that offense.


23 posted on 07/06/2013 7:42:38 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

Again. Speaking as a Prosecutor of 25 years. Watching on television is neigh unto meaningless. It is about as much like being on the jury and listening as it is like going to Disneyland. You can NOT reach any reasonable conclusions even if you watch it all.

I have zero idea what will happen, but I have found that juries, even in cases I lost, rend to try and do their best and the right thing.


24 posted on 07/06/2013 7:42:45 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Olog-hai
You should hear his anti-Israel rants.

It seems Savage has a problem with a White-Hispanic-Jew

David Horowitz also seems to be getting his information on this case from Nancy Grace

25 posted on 07/06/2013 7:42:55 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Signalman
Savage is an idiot to the nth degree! "Savage laid out his case, saying that the murder could have been avoided, but based on Zimmerman’s gun having a round in the chamber with the safety off, Zimmerman intended “to find some he could shoot or intimidate.

Zimmerman was carrying a Kel Tec semi-automatic 9mm handgun,” Savage said. “So? Big deal. It is a big deal because he had a bullet chambered in the gun and he had the safety off… Had he not chambered a round prior to meeting Trayvon, and had he not taken the safety off, even if Trayvon, during the altercation even if Trayvon had tried to grab the gun away from Zimmerman — had that gun not been chambered with a round and safety off, Trayvon Martin would have had to use two hands. You can’t do it with one hand.”

The safety was not off, the safety is an intentional pull of the trigger by design as stated in the manual for the weapon under consideration here, namely a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm semi-automatic pistol. That's what you moron Savage!

From the manual for the gun:

(http://www.keltecweapons.com/uploaded_files/resources/f_40e0390a11d369dfd1ab8071bc5c91efPF-9_Manual.pdf)

SAFETY
To achieve highest operator safety, combined with ease of handling, the pistol is "DOUBLE ACTION ONLY". It has no manual safety and the hammer is never fully cocked. The hammer is of a novel design. Compared to a conventional hammer, the pistol is very light and consequently, operates at high velocities. It is driven by a special free floating extension spring. Furthermore, the hammer's mass is concentrated around its axis giving an inertia in the critical direction of the firing pin close to zero. In its ready position the hammer is securely held by the hammer block. Only by deliberately pulling the trigger can the hammer block be disengaged. The tilting action of the barrel excludes firing unless the breech is fully locked. A direct blow to the hammer is impossible, as it is enclosed by the slide and grip. The hammer's energy is transmitted to the primer through a low mass firing pin.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/03/28/george-zimmermans-gun-a-popular-choice-for-concealed-carry/

This is exactly why I don't listen to this blowhard anymore...

26 posted on 07/06/2013 7:43:18 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: DirtyPigpen

Born in the Bronx; currently lives in California. He got his doctorate from UC Berkeley in “Nutritional Ethnomedicine”, whatever that is, so occasionally he likes to brag that he’s a “doctor”.


27 posted on 07/06/2013 7:43:58 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: IChing

Savage has lost his frickin mind and should just STFU lest he remove ALL doubt about his lack of intelligence and current mental state. Maybe he’s having early dementia or Alzeimers-related mind problems. Or maybe somebody slipped him the kool aid when he wasn’t paying attention.


28 posted on 07/06/2013 7:44:23 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Signalman

Where is the picture of a rabbit with a pancake on it’s head, because that makes more sense than Savage.


29 posted on 07/06/2013 7:44:46 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: digger48

Yes, David Horowitz showed his true colors....he has lost this conservative fan.


30 posted on 07/06/2013 7:45:30 PM PDT by mountaineer1997 (ray lewis Praise Allah, Ray Lewis suspect)
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah, that’s like saying you have a degree in parapsychology.


31 posted on 07/06/2013 7:45:36 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: Signalman

I thought the crack epidemic was over in radio. Obviously not.


32 posted on 07/06/2013 7:46:12 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: iowamark

i am from the Bay Area and have always thought MS to be an ass... but i also think poor Zimmerman will be found guilty... not for the reasons MS thinks so...


33 posted on 07/06/2013 7:47:13 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Mastador1
Ah, you speak of Oolong (really “Ūrong” since the rabbit in question is from Japan; also strange since the rabbit’s name translates as “Black Dragon”).


34 posted on 07/06/2013 7:50:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Signalman

Savage is an idiot. He always was an idiot, but it’s becoming more obvious in his old age.

See post 26 regarding the firearm. Aside from which, if a firearm isn’t in usable condition, it’s not much good in an emergency. There are far better clubs.


35 posted on 07/06/2013 7:51:11 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Signalman
Where is Savage getting his information, Al Sharpton? Maybe he should spend some time watching the trial or at least buy a clue.
36 posted on 07/06/2013 7:51:41 PM PDT by JPG (Obama Does Egypt.)
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To: Signalman

I stopped listening to Savage when he made the maximum allowable contribution to Jerry Brown. Whenever he comes on, I turn to another station.


37 posted on 07/06/2013 7:51:45 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: DirtyPigpen

How dare you sully Venkman’s reputation.


38 posted on 07/06/2013 7:53:22 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Signalman

Savage is a loudmouth idiot with a microphone. He can’t talk to anyone who disagrees with him even one percent without screaming at them and calling them names.


39 posted on 07/06/2013 7:53:41 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: jurroppi1

It seems to have slipped Savages mind that an attempted murder was in progress and Zimmerman prevented it.

Savage should read the story of actress Natasha Richardson. One bump on the head while skiing and a couple hours later - after initially thinking she was OK - she was dead.

ANY injury to the head, ESPECIALLY on cement, is life threatening! This is a clear attempt on someones life - seen by a witness by the way - only the attempted murder FAILED when it met the 2nd amendment!


40 posted on 07/06/2013 7:54:43 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Signalman

Screw Weiner.


41 posted on 07/06/2013 7:54:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Signalman
for all the talk about this mutt i still have no idea who he is except what i read on FR, so i guess i'll count my blessings... (radio is XM and no tv)
42 posted on 07/06/2013 7:55:43 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Signalman

I think he is charged with second degree murder, not manslaughter (and I don’t know if there is second degree manslaughter).

They’ve overcharged him, manslaughter might have been sustainable, 2nd degree murder is a stretch.


43 posted on 07/06/2013 7:56:02 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: RIghtwardHo

Not sure what trial you are watching, but watching this one is painful. The state has not even come close to proving the charge.

They may bamboozle the jury with a ton of crap, but they haven’t come close to proving their case.


44 posted on 07/06/2013 7:56:02 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Signalman

Savage is a moron. I started ignoring him awhile back.


45 posted on 07/06/2013 7:57:06 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Olog-hai

Thanks, and looking at it again reaffirms my opinion that it make more sense than Savage.


46 posted on 07/06/2013 7:57:41 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Signalman

Savage is insane


47 posted on 07/06/2013 7:57:57 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Signalman

Who is Michael Savage? Is he important to me?


48 posted on 07/06/2013 7:58:00 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: Signalman
Irresponsible on Mr. Savage's part.

Certain segments of society will point to this as ‘proof’ that an acquittal was a gross injustice and retribution is warranted.

Maybe it's time for him to stick to nutrition.

49 posted on 07/06/2013 7:58:57 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Signalman

He’s full of sh!t on this one.


50 posted on 07/06/2013 7:59:00 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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