Coroner: ‘Glee’ actor Cory Monteith died of overdose of heroin and alcohol

Washington Post ^ | 07/16/2013

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Suicide is not a “tragic accident”.

[dmz]

Tragedy and inevitablity are not mutually exclusive.

Is the death of those teens a tragic situation for the parents of the teens? The parents weren’t driving, and yet their lives have been blown apart.

[dfwgator]

"Do I even need to say it?"

[dfwgator]

The way I see it, he died doing what he loved best, getting high.

[dmz]

we are instructing their parents in dealing with the problem..if they value their inheritence. Enough is enough.

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Nothing says you have lost influence more than having to threaten your adult children with the potential loss of their inheritance if they don’t behave in the way you choose.

Of course, it’s your money and you absolutely should do with it what you believe best.

[rey]

“Tragedy and inevitablity are not mutually exclusive.

Is the death of those teens a tragic situation for the parents of the teens? The parents weren’t driving, and yet their lives have been blown apart.”

You shall reap that which you sow. Yes, despite the best upbringing people still do stupid things, but quite often, people that do really stupid things can reflect on poor upbringing, bad parenting, poor education, bad character development, bad associations.

Sure, it is a sad event for the parents, but what is tragic is they didn’t do a better job of rearing their kids. If my kid did something as stupid as drinking and driving and killing himself and someone else, my thoughts would NOT be oh my poor son or what a tragedy my son suffered. No. I would recognize the tragedy or near tragedy he caused.

Were Hitler’s parents still alive at the time of his death would your thoughts be about their loss?

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I’m a total gleek and I’m still sad about his death. As a longtime friend of Bill W’s, I’ve seen many deaths and after awhile I became hardened by it. But, it’s still sad to see young lives full of potential extinguished by drugs and alcohol. RIP, Cory. You will be missed.

[dmz]

Were Hitler’s parents still alive at the time of his death would your thoughts be about their loss?

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The kid who was in the passenger seat of this car full of kids you’ve spoken about is somehow comparable to Adolph Hitler?

Just a bizarre place to take this discussion.

[rey]

The point is, they acted irresponsibly, all of the people in the car, every last one of them. Their deaths were inevitable, and you say poor mom and dad, suggesting that we should always feel for the parents. I say perhaps if mom and dad did a better job, none of this would have happened. Four teens, all drunk off their butts at some incredibly ridiculous rate of speed, on a very hilly 25mph road, not a tragedy. It was self induced death and damn fortunate they didn’t take an innocent person with them.

[dmz]

Actually what I said to start all of this off was that tragedy and inevitability are not mutually exclusive.

It was a tragic event for the parents (whose children, btw, are nothing like hitler and it is ridiculous for you to have made the absurd comparison).

You further compound the absurdity by blaming the parents, for not having done a good enough job raising their kids. Completely absurd, as you have no earthly idea how they were raised.

I am quite sure that a significant percentage of us, freepers extraordinaire, did some incredibly stupid things as kids and young adults, completely at odds with the way we were raised. I know I sure did. That is not the parent’s fault. And your blaming them (how else could you possibly mean “if mom and dad did a better job, none of this would have happened”) demonstrates a deeply flawed view of parenting.

For the record, I have 3 kids (21, 28 and 30), so have a bit of experience in the matter.

[rey]

By the way, I appreciate your cordiality.

It wasn’t absurd. You made it sound like the loss of every child is a tragedy. Perhaps for the parent. Perhaps the sense of tragedy for the parent is they might have done better. I used the Hitler Mom and Pop as an extreme example. Everytime some one dies someone say “The poor parents.” I’m certain no one said that when Adolph offed himself. I’m rather certain no one felt sorry for Chuckie Manson’s folks either (Thought I have to admit, I am very curious what the parents of really bad people are like)

This “Glee” guy was obviously a piece of work, as are many in Hollywood. Sorry, not a loss, don’t give a hoot. 90 percent of these self destructive people have some sort of defect that is nurtured in their rearing.

For example, the article that keeps coming up on Freep about the 6 year old transgender kid. When he, she, it does what ever stupid thing and kills itself, I think we can say Mom and Dad (if that is the case) came up wanting.

What I will concede is that no matter how screwed up our rearing,or how much government schools tweek us, ultimately we are responsible for ourselves and our actions.

By the way, last time I checked 21, 28, and 30 aren’t kids. Now I’m pulling your leg :)

Thanks